I recall reading about a console that was planned back in the late 1970s from Apple. I think it was called Annie but the sources out there are fuzzy. Some say the Annie project eventually became the Mac. It all depends on what you read.
If that was true it was probably going head to head with the Atari 2600 should it have been released. I still think the 2600 is the greatest console ever and I speak because I still have one that works. Played it last week, in fact. (My favorite game is probably Kaboom--the one where you moved the paddles and had to catch the bombs--and I wasn't bad at it despite my failing hand eye coordination due to old age) I know little about this XBox 360 but will it be a machine that can surf the net? Being a living room computer it wouldn't surprise me if people could check their e-mail and then go and play their video games. And yes, Apple is ALWAYS advanced...look at the Lisa. It took years for some of those technologies to get integrated into the Mac OS and Windows. Don't forget the QuickTake camera, either...defniitely a pioneer. Scott --- "Luis D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The way I see it, Apple helped microsoft once again > get ahead of > them. Xbox 360 is a living room computer just like > pippin too. I've > heard rumors that it will be able to run a version > of Windows Vista > in the future, though I'm not too sure on that. I > think that pippin > was a premature Xbox 360. > > On Sep 25, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Thomas Burns wrote: > > > In case anyone is interested: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Mint-boxed-Apple-Pippin-Development- > > > > System_W0QQitemZ5293877331QQcategoryZ1247QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ > > > ViewItem > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Baret" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Vintage Macs" > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 6:51 PM > > Subject: Re: Apple Pippin > > > > > > > >> Did Bandai develop the electronics in it? The > last > >> time I heard anything about Bandai was back when > Power > >> Rangers was the thing to watch. They made the > action > >> figures and got really rich in the mid-90s. I > didn't > >> know Bandai did electronics... > >> > >> --- Arnel Tuazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> From Wikipedia: > >>> > >>> "The Apple Pippin was a technology for a > multimedia > >>> title player (sometimes > >>> mistakenly referred to as a games console ) > designed > >>> by Apple Computer in > >>> the mid-1990s. It was based around a 66 MHz > PowerPC > >>> 603e processor, and ran > >>> a cut-down version of the Mac OS. The goal was > to > >>> create an inexpensive > >>> computer aimed mostly at playing CD-based > multimedia > >>> titles, especially > >>> games, but also functioning as a network > computer. > >>> It featured a 4x CD-ROM > >>> drive and a video output that could connect to a > >>> standard television > >>> monitor. > >>> Apple never intended to release its own Pippin. > >>> Instead it intended to > >>> license the technology to third parties, a model > >>> similar to that of the > >>> ill-fated 3DO. However the only Pippin licensee > to > >>> release a product to > >>> market was Bandai. > >>> By the time the Bandai Pippin was released, > (1995 > >>> for Japan, 1996 for the > >>> United States) the market was already dominated > by > >>> the Nintendo 64, Sony > >>> PlayStation, and Sega Saturn, machines which > were > >>> much more powerful as game > >>> machines than the more general purpose Pippin. > In > >>> addition, there was little > >>> ready-to-go software for Pippin, the only major > >>> publisher being Bandai > >>> itself. Costing US$599 on launch, it was also > >>> expensive: though touted as a > >>> "cheap" computer, this was only true if compared > to > >>> the Macintosh. It was > >>> far more expensive than a PlayStation. > >>> Ultimately, Pippin as a technology suffered > because > >>> it was a late starter in > >>> the 3D generation of consoles, and was > under-powered > >>> as a gaming machine and > >>> personal computer. Bandai's version died a quick > >>> death, only ever having a > >>> relatively limited release in the United States > and > >>> Japan." > >>> > >>> I also checked out links from this description > and > >>> came to the 3DO and M2 > >>> both of which used RISC processors (i.e. 3DO > used > >>> the ARM60 32-bit and the > >>> M2 used a PowerPC 602/33). > >>> > >>> So, all in all, I'm sorry but the Pippin does > NOT > >>> belong on this list. > >>> Please take it to the PowerPC list. Thank you. > ;D > >>> > >>> BTW thanks and nice find! 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