Hi, Asad and Volks,

Unfortunately, my part of the globe (Tennessee) needs heat in the winter,
and cooling in the summer.  Spring and autumn are beautiful, but too short
for a VW enthusiast's hobby.  The VW heating system can be marginally
adequate in winter if it's in good repair, well sealed, and the engine is
running at proper temperature.  Unfortunately, it's dependent on engine
speed, which is unreliable in urban commuting traffic.

My local experienced VW shadetree mechanic assures me that a ring of RTV
silicone sealant around the bakelite pipe flange will create a good,
heat-resistant seal on the flange where the heat tube enters the body.  I'm
not convinced, so I will probably attempt to cut a pair of seals from
something else.  Your red rubber gaskets might be some kind of
high-temperature silicone rubber.  I'll ask around.

The good news is that I found a couple of VW carcasses with the short
underseat warm-air tube insulation intact, and used them as models for my
recreations.  I cut new covers from scraps of vinyl-coated canvas from a
local sign shop:  it's the stuff they use for banner signs and it has a
texture and apparent strength identical to the factory material.  An
upholstery shop gave me some pieces of jute insulation (about 15mm or 5/8"
thick and colored grey) that matches the original almost perfectly.  I found
two of the flaps that fit inside the pipes to open the rear footwell
outlets, and they cleaned up very nicely. I bent new control wires from a
scrap heater cable.

I'll report back when it's all together.

Salaam,

Bert Knupp


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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Gasket material


Bert et all,
 
     Sorry but Im a bit grey in this area due to the fact that this part of
the world is quite warm and VW heaters are almost always disabled in my city
at least. In fact I have yet to see a bug with working heaters. Thanks to
irresponsible mechs who throw out heater parts everytime the engine is taken
off or the car goes for any work.
 
    I did not know there were bakelite parts down there. Is it the short
tube which clears thru the body under the rear seat?? Will try to knock on
the ones in my 68 next time I pop the rear seat butt rest up. I thought they
were metal.
 
    I have seen rubber gaskets at the boneyard. I thought they went where
the big accordion pipes joined with the body with the mentioned bakelite (?)
pipes. Could this be what you are referring to?? They are bright orangish
red. I think I have seen these advertised on websites. Could this be the
crumbled material you found?? Ironically Ive always noted these to be in
very good shape, even with 40 odd years of abuse in our tropical weather and
no love.
 
Best wishes and regards,
 
Asad
Karachi, Pakistan.
 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 
> 22 Nov 2008 19:30:06 -0600> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Gasket material
>  
> Volks,
> Mike and Gerald,
> Thanks for the ideas. Yes, these are the seals used where the heater box
> outlet pipe goes through the steel body panel above the torsion bar
housing.
> When I hold a couple of the crumbled fragments up to light, it shows that
> they are translucent -- probably not asbestos. But also not very durable
> over time, obviously. And both of my bakelite flange-and-tube assemblies
> were also badly granulated when I unscrewed the flanges -- they fell apart
> into multiple pieces.
> 
> The insulated heater tubes under the rear seat are wrapped with "blankets"
> that feel like old-fashioned jute carpet padding, wrapped with a vinyl
> jacket, and held together by 15" cable ties. But the insulating material
is
> noncombustable: it won't light with a match. I'll look around.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bert Knupp in 
> Music City USA

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