I would be having new pan halves grafted into my 59 rag project.
The pan halves are locally fabricated (in thick gauge steel) so Ill have to
reuse the original seat rails. I bought 64 vintage seats for the 59 (which was
sporting superbug highbacks) along with the matching seat rails from the
scrapyard as I too anticipate problems similar to Bert's once we come to that
stage.
Asad
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:30:57 -0500
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Poor-fitting seat rails
>
> Mike,
>
> Oops. Thanks for the warning, Mike. I'd best go easy with the rubber
> mallet! I'm seeing a problem coming since I don't have a welding
> capabilitly, but it might be the only way I'm going to get my seats to fit
> correctly.
>
> I fear that Bill's suggestion would have been the best -- ve get too soon
> oldt und too late schmardt! Of course, I don't have my old rails anymore.
> And I gave away what little was left of my parts-car carcass.
>
> Arrgh.
>
> Bert
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:08 PM
> To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Poor-fitting seat rails
>
> I didnt know about the poor fit, but, the cheaper aftermarket seat rail
> metal is a thinner guage steel, and would bend away more easily in a
> rear-end collision.
> I've also learned not to hammer the seat back on tight tracks; the tubular
> seat frames get dented easily, even with a soft-faced mallet.
>
> Mike B.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill May
> To: 'Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List'
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Poor-fitting seat rails
>
>
> I always weld the original mounts on the aftermarket pans. The reason? The
> seats don't fit the Brazilian rails.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bert Knupp
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: 'Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List'
> Subject: [vintagvw] Poor-fitting seat rails
>
> Volks,
>
> When my local VW fixer welded in new floor pans in my 1970 Type 1, the
> pans
> included seat rails. They seem to be very firmly welded onto the pan.
> I'm
> guessing the pans are Brazilian, but there's no evidence.
>
> But the seats just barely fit -- they'll go on maybe four to five inches
> or
> so, then they bind up. And I can't find where they're binding -- no
> scraped
> paint, visible gouging, etc., even where I've used a rubber mallet to
> "persuade" them farther into the rails. (That's only gained me a couple of
> inches -- barely enough to get mny knees under the steering wheel).
>
> The seats are rebuilt and seemingly in great condition. The rails are
> nicely lubricated. Their rail grippers are straight and smooth, and the
> seats worked well on their previous floor (they're both German original).
> I
> don't want to start "relieving" my seats with a Dremel grinder or hacksaw
> except as a last resort.
>
> The inner flanges of the floor rails are 15.25" (387 mm) apart at the
> front
> and 15.375" (390.5 mm) apart at the rear. The seats look as if they
> should
> fit throughout that range -- but they don't. I suspect I'll need my
> trusty
> sledge hammer, but I don't want to just begin whacking until something
> bends
> -- or breaks. I need a target measurement.
>
> QUESTIONS: Who knows the correct factory measurement for the distance
> between the inner lips of the floor flanges on a 1970 Type 1? Or the
> outer
> dimension, for that matter? Who has some experience to share before I
> start
> any violence? Is there any "usual problem" that aftermarket floor seat
> rails seem to present, or is it just random poor quality in Brazil? I
> don't
> have a welding rig and would prefer to avoid that route if possible. But
> even then, I would need the correct dimensions to shoot for.
>
> I hate when this happens.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bert Knupp in Music City USA
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>
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