Brien,
This might help.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportation/1972-05-01/Propane-Conversion.aspx
One of the guys in our local club ran across this last weekend....I am
*very* interested as I can buy propane thru the company I work for for
$1.95/gallon.....have them bring a 500 gallon tank and park it in my yard
and pay once for "gasoline" for the year.
Just a thought....
Cheers, dave
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Brien wrote:
Burning food! That is my major issue as well.
When I lived in brazil in the early 90's they still had beatles as police cars,
tazis etc... Most of them were set up to run 3 fuels full ethanol, regular gas
and natural gas. The taxi guys were set up to buy and run whatever was cheapest
at the time.
I have wanted to go back and take the time to see how they do that and do mine
that way. Being able to run natural gas would be great.
I'll send some links when I get back to a computer.
Brien (mobile mail)
"Dave C. Bolen" <dbo...@shockwaverider.com> wrote:
Folks,
My experience in air cooled has not been a big deal since everyone was
assured long ago that the biggest change was to go to better(stainless)
valves. I have not seen much degradation at all on "modern" rubber lines
with ethanol.
THE BAD....
I have used chainsaws extensively for years. My first Sears chainsaw kept
me in wood every winter for more than 20 years.
My second Sears chainsaw lasted about 5 years before I took it in to get
repaired. The mech calls and says it needs a new piston and cylinder for
about $130 total. I look at both when I pick the saw up and the piston
and cylinder are extremely scored.
Mech says "you used gasoline with ethanol in your chainsaw"...
Something about the ethanol and and oil not mixing well/or separating out
in both the tank and gas can when not used often(every day). So now I
shake the daylights out of the saw and can before I use them.
He insisted that I should use ethanol free gas only...but you all know how
hard it can be to find.
My only other problem with E10 or E15....The much worse gas mileage i get.
AND the BIGGEST thing....we just laid of about 300 people where I work
because the price of corn is so high that you almost can't afford to use
it for feed.
We need to make sure that ethanol production use non-food grade materials
to make ethanol.....I really hate burning food in my car.
Cheers, dave
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, Mike wrote:
Ethanol content in our gas eliminates the need for "DryGas". Not a bad
thing entirely.
Hygroscopic means that it attracts/absorbs water.
If there's water in your gas tank (whether from the gas-pumps or from highly
humid air condensing in the airspace above a less-than-full tank).
It allows the contaminant to burn in the engine along with the gas. This
reduces octane as well as the combustion temps as the water cools the
mixture.
But I have NO idea what to do for VW fuel lines.....
Mike B.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bert Knupp
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List'
Subject: [vintagvw] Ethanol in gasoline
Volks,
The European classic-car boards are lighting up in panic because of a
proposal in the European Community to mandate E10 fuel -- requiring 10%
ethyl alcohol (ethanol) in all retail motor fuels. You'd think war had been
declared on old-timers and classics: Doom and destruction is being forecast
for all the usual reasons, mostly revolving around the hygroscopic
characteristics of ethanol. Of course, here in the USA, we've had E15 at
our pumps for a long time. And lead-free gasolines even longer.
The general question: What adaptations, if any, are required when ethanol
gets added routinely to motor fuels? Will our fuel tanks really rust away?
Will our butyl rubber fuel lines really turn to silly putty? Are we really
seeing any negative effects of our E15 gasoline on longevity, performance,
or economy? How about the absence of tetraethyl lead? In the USA, it was
the agriculture lobby that bought enough votes to require ethanol use. In
Europe, distaste for dependency on Khadafy and his ilk adds to the push
(though we've had our share of jingoism, too). What's the Real Story for
those of us who drive antique cars with antique engines? Are there any
additives we ought to consider? Changes in hoses and tubes? Fuel
treatments to spare our gas tanks?
Bert Knupp in Music City USA
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