Kyle,
Did changing your gen brushes solve the problem? the difference between 6V and 12V brushes is size; 6v brushes are narrow in width and 12V brushes are wide, they are not interchangeable. So you say you have both idiot lights working; they both come on when the key is on, then go out when the engine starts, then come back on when the engine dies, correct? That's fine that they're both red, but the gen one is supposed to be green to differentiate the two, so you know what the problem is. Unplug the oil pressure switch and then turn the key to see which one didn't come on; that's your oil light. It's easy to switch the bulbholders around on the back of the speedo to make it show the oil on the right (green) and gen on the left (red), if they're backwards from original. Wolfsburg West sells the colored lens cells to replace them inside the speedo, but it has to come apart to install them as they glue to the backside of the dial. No, you shouldn't run a 6V coil in a 12V car, it will burn out quickly, which goes for just about every other 6V component, except the starter. You can run a 6V starter in a 12V car for years with no problem, it just spins faster, which is not a bad thing. It's only used for a very short amount of time and very infrequently, so the heavy windings inside can take the heat for years before it eventually burns out. Many folks choose to convert to 12V for better starting, to use a 'better' modern radio, more readily available replacement parts, etc. I just did a complete conversion on a friends '65 bug, including the wiper motor armature, which is also offered by WW. Every bulb, starter, alternator (w/internal regulator), coil, carb idle cutoff and choke element, turn signal flasher, cigarette lighter, headlights, etc. Any item you don't replace will burn out sooner or later. There's no easy way to degrease an entire engine and transaxle. It's all manual labor for me. Some folks use oven cleaner and a pressure washer, but you've got to be careful with both. Yes, clean the mess, find the leak(s) and fix them. Feed it's oil habit religiously until then, or your engine will burn out soon also!

Mike B.



On 8/3/2013 12:16 AM, Kyle Davis wrote:
Both idiot lights light up. They both show as RED in the ON (pre start) condition.

If one of them is supposed to show green, that doesn't ever happen.

Before I swapped out the generator brushes, when the car would die both idiot lights would come on.

Oil level is fine, however; there is an oil leak.

As far as 12 volt and 6 volt components go, here's what I have figured out:

Definitely a 12 volt battery.

Possibly a 12 volt generator.

Definitely a 6 volt coil (I installed that one without thinking-is this going to cause problems down the line?)

A 12 volt regulator

12 volt generator brushes (wonder what the difference is between 12 volt and 6 volt brushes?)

Original 6 volt starter (I'm guessing here, but that is still my guess.)

From near as what I can figure, the owner before the previous owner must have done the conversion to either fix bad starting condition? or put in a really cheap am fm cassette radio. Believe it is moreso the latter, and not so much the former.

Me, myself, would be happy with one of those retrosound systems, but first things first- paint job, and the myriad of other parts it needs to look presentable.

Also, somewhere along in there, and hopefully before winter sets in, a tuneup. Figure get the points, do all of that, and see how it goes.

There is definitely a short of some sort in the electric system. Not sure how or where to track it down, but the dome light doesn't seem to work, nor do the headlights. The brake lights, and the tun signals work, though.

Speedo gauge works, that's a good sign.

the fuel gauge appears to work, too. When I thought that I hadn't fixed this dying out while running condition, turns out between my boy helping me run the car while I adjust the carb and me trying to start it, it ran it bone dry.

Plan on cleaning out the engine area from all oil and grease. Figure that may be a good area to start looking for the oil leaks.

Any tips on doing this?

Let me know,

Kyle 66 bug

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        It is the charging system. After starting it up, disconnected
        the battery
        and the engine promptly died out.

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        Is the gen warning light in the speedo coming on when you turn
        the key
        on then going out after you start the engine? Make sure your
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