I'm really surprised this list is still working.  It's nice to see all the
familiar names once again!  I remember Kirin and Suleman, Gilbert Sy Chan,
Rachel, Thom Fitzpatrick, Rob Kuhn, and many other greats!

I've been chatting with Nick of vwradios.com and he isn't able to post on
the list so he will be sending me something that I can share on his behalf.

He made the suggestion that whoever set up the list on google groups
probably has deleted their account or lost access to it.  That being the
case, this is probably why the the only way you can post anything here is
via whatever email address you're currently subscribed with.  I can't even
reply via google groups and none of the commands I've tried will work.  It
seems the list is hanging on by a thread.

Is anyone interested in doing it the old way if I can find some listserv
software and run it on a dedicated server?  If so, I'll get something
figured out.  I'm going to first of all see if I can find John Sroka and
ask him what's up with this google groups thing.  It seems as if it might
be abandoned.  I wouldn't care if I set up a new listserv and it didn't get
used very often.  As it stands, the last message I got with it was back in
June of 2020 I think.

I'll do some research and let you all know what I find out.  I'll start
with trying to track down John and go from there.

NQ

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 6:33 PM lloyd mcclelland <lloyd...@suddenlink.net>
wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Hi   VW vintage list  , I'm still here with VW projects ( hopefully
> waiting ) I've passed the '57 sedan on to Kafer Dave who finished a
> wonderful restoration , and bought another 87 Vanagon ..The '61 sunroof
> beetle still is hiding in the garage ... Nice to see these VW names ..Lloyd
> in Eureka CA.
>
> On Nov 2, 2021, at 10:03 AM, 'Ray Yoder' via VintagVW - Air Cooled
> Volkswagen Discussion List <vintagvw@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> This pic left a permanent image in my brain. Always loved your stories!!
> How is your wife doing?
>
> Anyone remember Suleman and his brother?  Think Suleman moved to the US
> but his brother was in Pakistan?  Any updates on them?
>
> Ray
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp>
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 10:47 PM, Lazlo
> <erin.lass...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep I still have them in their original format.  Funny how in the day, you
> could view them just fine on a P166 machine and now they are so tiny with
> the higher resolutions we run today.
>
> https://elassleybie.incolor.com/temp/Mexibug/
>
> I think I took these with my sister's Advantix camera and scanned them
> in.  When I run across the photos, I'll rescan with a better resolution.
>
> I'm amazed you still remembered this.  It doesn't seem all that long ago,
> but I was as old then as it has been years since!
>
> NQ
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 9:07 PM 'Scott S' via VintagVW - Air Cooled
> Volkswagen Discussion List <vintagvw@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Nice to hear from you all!
> Scott Sportsman
> 73 Thing
>
> Please excuse my spelling, message sent from my rotary dial phone.
>
> On Oct 31, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Kirin Jacobsen <kirinjacob...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> I'm still kicking. Been sorting out my resto cal. Life's busy but I still
> remember the glory days.
>
> -Kirin
>
> On Sun., Oct. 31, 2021, 5:40 p.m. 'Ray Yoder' via VintagVW - Air Cooled
> Volkswagen Discussion List, <vintagvw@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi NQ. do you still have the pic of you with the bug body on the roof?
>
> Sadly we also lost Bill May some time ago. Anyone hear from Jim Anderson?
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
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>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 2:47 PM, Lazlo
> <erin.lass...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice to hear from you Bruce.  Can't you think of better things to think
> about than me?  LOL!  Seriously it's nice to be remembered.
>
> I tried to subscribe another email address to the listserv and there is
> just nothing I can do.  It's just locked up really tight so I'm even
> wondering if any new subscribers can get on?  We might just be locked down
> to whomever is here at the moment, but I'm not for sure.
>
> The glory days of the list seem to be in the past since and it's a shame,
> but it's clearly evident why.  The mass use of internet and the social
> media platforms have just completely watered things down.  It used to be
> that if you "on the list" you were automatically in a close-knit group that
> required some level of computer savvy to find and get on to.  Admittedly
> though, isn't it so much easier to just click 'Join Group' on facebook,
> kick back, and let the information and pictures roll in?  Before, you had
> to send emails in to subscribe, unsubscribe (how many times did we see
> 'unsubscribe' sent to the list?  LOL!), and all other queries done in a
> fashion that was appropriate for the level of technology we had at hand .
> It's a pity shame the archived posts, to my knowledge, are gone.  If John
> Sroka has any of them, it would be nice to get ahold of them and spread
> them around.
>
> I learned that last winter, Gerald Livingston succumbed to heart disease.
> He was on here, but more so on the type2 listservs.  We didn't find out
> until many months later, but wondered why the Buskatiers website that he
> hosted had gone off-line.  I got to see him about a year before he died
> when my wife and I went down to the gulf coast for a getaway trip.  I had a
> hunch it might have been the last time I'd see him alive.  He had a ton of
> VW and Commodore computer stuff laying around plus a ton of other
> equipment.
>
> I never did forget Scott Yuppa who was on the list a short time and passed
> away in an airplane accident with his dad Carmine (I think?).  We've lost
> quite a few others and it's sad that in our minds, we met these amazing
> individuals who were so giving of their time and knowledge and if we were
> really fortunate, we got to meet them in person - and with the passing of
> time - they're gone.  Bob Hoover is also missed.
>
> I hate to think the list has degraded into a bunch of old fogies sitting
> around thinking about the past, but with such a large movement towards
> social media, perhaps we should look at a side-gig of adding a vintagvw
> group to facebook.  I mean, it could really revitalize the list by sharing
> the wit and wisdom of the old-timers with any new-comers who might be
> interested.  I always did prefer the email aspect as it was fast and like
> reading a good book.  Like radio was prior to TV - the pictures in our
> heads were removed once we could see who was talking.  I'm on facebook, but
> I really limit what I share on there and it seems that it's a very
> successful surveillance machine and that fact alone makes me not like it.
>
> Oddly enough, since I don't change easily with time, I still carry around
> a 2003 Motorola V60s cell-phone which Verizon has continued to allow to
> operate on their towers.  It fits in my bib pocket quite nicely and is loud
> enough to be heard over the saw at work - even while doing a full rip on a
> board.  I had a truck driver this past week say, "Is that a cell phone?"
> It struck me that is now an old term.  Today it's called a smartphone.  I
> own several smartphones and use them when I travel, but for the day to day
> monotony of life - it's what I like.  Old cars are the same way - they
> might not get as good of mileage and might not have all the modern
> conveniences, but there is a certain amount of freedom one gains by
> sticking with the familiar, the easily repaired, and something within your
> skill level to fix and maintain.  My V60 has had it's motherboard dropped
> into a new shell 7 to 10 times at this point.  I take the phone apart, fix
> it, and it keeps right on working.  Even soldering the internal antenna
> connector back on is something I've gotten good at.
>
> Anyway, concerning the listserv at present.  I found this archive:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com/  so that might
> provide some way to look for old posts.  At this point though, it seems we
> are invisible list not easily accessible.  That ended with the demise of
> the old sjsu server of years gone by.
>
> I fully expect that we will see some frantic messages requesting to
> unsubscribe from those who forgot they were subbed because it's been so
> long since they joined.  It just kind of goes with the territory when
> suddenly a big ol' post comes through the email that one isn't used to
> seeing.
>
> I guess that's it for now.  I'll sit back and see what everyone else has
> to say.
>
> NQ
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 1:16 PM 'Bruce Howard' via VintagVW - Air Cooled
> Volkswagen Discussion List <vintagvw@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I'm still here. Was thinking about you the other day, NQ.
>
> Still no VW but I have my eye on a field Ghia. Been watching a lot of Mike
> FN Garage on YouTube. Made me miss the community.
>
> I'm in Massachusetts now, living in a toy hauler, sans toy, working a
> Lockheed Martin g contract. Fam is still in TX and FL.
>
> Later,
> VWguyBruce
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> of Lazlo <erin.lass...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2021 2:11:58 PM
> *To:* vintagvw@googlegroups.com <vintagvw@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* [vintagvw] Is the list still active?
>
> Hi gang - just going through some old messages in my little-used gmail
> account and I saw some VintagVW messages.  Are we still live or are we in
> the post-mortem throws of death?  TTYL!
>
> NQ
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