Hello Kimber, without trying to start a non-Apple product debate on list, I have to respectfully disagree with the following statement you made.

> the assertion that screen readers and audiobooks are responsible for
> blind kids/adults not being able to
> spell is ludicrous. It's our lousy educational system that produces
> rotten spellers, not adaptive technology.

I am willing to discuss this further off list since I know it's not list related. I agree that the educational system has its problems and can stand to use betterment. My seven year old first grader is bored out of his mind because of the math curriculum the public schools use here. And so he gets into trouble because he doesn't have something to challenge him. So, to make up for that, I have him do extra things at home and he's very advanced in math.

However, it has been proven that the same part of the brain is stimulated when a sighted person reads print with their eyes or a blind person reads Braille with their fingers. That same part is not stimulated when a person, blind or sighted is only listening to material such as synthetic speech or audio books. This contributes to why many people zone out when only listening to audio. It's also proven, at least with blind people that in many cases, those who depend on speech and haven't had much, if any Braille training, don't capitalize things. This is because they don't think that words need to be capitalized. It's sad, but on various blindness oriented lists I'm on, I see many people's display names or signatures without proper capitalization. In fact, many on this list fall into this category. Does that mean they aren't Braille readers, or are only speech users and don't know to capitalize things? Who is to say, but I would venture a guess that a great many are probably only speech users. Either that, or just lazy.

Of course, with anything, there are always exceptions. One of my good friends is a school teacher and a brilliant one, however you would never know it by reading her emails.

Regarding spelling, I can't really comment on that because I think poor spelling skills can be attributed to many factors. I am a horrid speller and so try to not impose my standards on others. I however, try to do my best by capitalizing things, spell things right, and if I'm stuck, I'll spell-check. English is my second language, and yet I am saddened to see many people who have full command of English, and yet they can't spell things like since, sense, scent, or cents. And worse yet, they can't use them in the proper context. Does it mean they are blind and only speech users? No, it really proves nothing in the end. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I feel there is some truth with the assertion that speech only users may have a harder time. I've seen it happen with people I know and in those situations, it hasn't been the educational system's fault.

OK, I'm off my soapbox now.

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On 5/3/2012 12:31 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:

I also don't buy into the statements that devices which make things
easier for us are also making us dumber.

I said something similar to my husband after reading the article which
was, on the whole, pretty good. But the assertion that screen readers
and audiobooks are responsible for blind kids/adults not being able to
spell is ludicrous. It's our lousy educational system that produces
rotten spellers, not adaptive technology.

K


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