Kawal, But, you do not have this issue right? the issue where Voice Over stops speaking for 60 - 90 seconds at a time.
Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 9 May 2012, at 15:25, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello Neil. I have my speech at 50% as higher, Boice Over cuts words. However I use Samantha as she's micer than Daniel and this goes for Seri too. On 9 May 2012, at 03:11 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <for...@talknav.com> wrote: > Chris, > > In fact the only thing I see that you all have in common, that is, those of > you who have this Voice Over stop speaking bug, is that your synth speed is > set very fast. > > The only way to test if a lower speed fixes it, is to reduce your speed. > > I do not have the issue, never have and I have owned all three versions of > the iPad, and have owned an iPhone 3GS, 4 and now the 4S. > > So that's 6 iOS devices, and never had the issue, but, I have my speech rate > set to just 40%. > > Does anyone with the speech stopping issue, have their synth rate set at a > more moderate level say, 60% or less? > > If we can find a user who has their synth speed at 60% or less, who has the > issue, then I'll begin to consider it being a different cause of this issue, > but, the more I talk to folk about this, the more those who suffer it seem to > have in common. > > That is, a tendency to be running your Voice Over synth up at 90% - 100%. > > > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 18:08, Cristobal wrote: > > If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being > above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher > having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in > itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't > addressed either. > > I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would > go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. > Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a > contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this > particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across > various iPhone and iPad models. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I > mean turn it off and back on again? > > I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. > I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. > > Danielle > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <for...@talknav.com> > wrote: > >> Danielle, >> >> It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps > running at the time etc. >> >> one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for > long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the > issue resolves. >> >> A: speech rate no more than 60%, >> clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring > in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. >> >> It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. >> >> if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one > of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I > mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: >> >> Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient > not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this > before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. >> >> Danielle >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" >> <for...@talknav.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe > the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >>> >>> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >>> >>> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >>> >>> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and > restart your iOS device daily. >>> >>> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> www.neilbarnfather.com >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >>> >>> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so >>> long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though >>> this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening > with a very few. >>> >>> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at >>> length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, >>> although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused > it. >>> >>> Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the >>> issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on >>> this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with >>> on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate >>> accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete > restores and not merely from backup. >>> I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if >>> maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but > randomness. >>> >>> The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is >>> quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait >>> until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but >>> even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, >>> as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to >>> right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent >>> it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not >>> be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. >>> Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the >>> power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read >>> a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in >>> the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing > the device to recover on its own is best. >>> >>> I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I >>> have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent >>> when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be >>> paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. >>> >>> I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have >>> begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the >>> issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have >>> never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. >>> >>> The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue >>> ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, >>> you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan >>> Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of >>> the annointed's blessings, too,. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Daniel Miller >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that > issue. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of James Mannion >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not >>> be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >>> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since >>> people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a >>> problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over >>> that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release >>> to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues >>> hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least > claim to have addressed them. >>> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting >>> there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation >>> to make and it is not written anywhere. >>> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >>> >>> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea <veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote: >>>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented >>>> the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>>> >>>> Veronica >>>> >>>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When >>>>> you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>>> calendar still. >>>>> >>>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech >>>>> locking up issue, either. We can only hope! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>>>> Skype: sseric57 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the >>>>> phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be >>>>> one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will > tell. >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad >>>>>> to see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>>>> error >>>>> every time >>>>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>>>>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>>>>> be >>> included. >>>>>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>>>>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>>>>> update What's New summary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Anna >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>>>>> stream, >>>>>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that >>>>>> has to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>>>>>> Jenifer Gilley >>>>>>> email >>>>>>> claudas...@gmail.com >>>>>>> MSN: >>>>>>> claudas...@cox.net >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Cristobal >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>>>>>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads >>>>>>> for those >>>>>> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues >>>>>> that didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did >>>>>> crash it the >>>>> first time >>>>>> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I >>>>>> don't know if there's anything accessibility related. 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