I, too, use the knob twisting method, and I have excellent success with the 
rotor. Thanks for these excellent alternative methods, Cristobal.

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On May 31, 2012, at 12:09 PM, "Cristobal" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I can't say I've had nearly the trouble expressed by others on this list
> with this gesture. 
> I often use a nob twisting motion with my thumb and index or middle finger
> or simply plant my index finger somewhere on the screen and use my middle
> finger to swipe somewhere else on the screen and generate the rotor action
> that way. I'll also just plant my index finger and place my middle finger on
> another part of the screen and rotate my wrist to cycle through the various
> options in a faster manner. That or just plant both fingers separated on the
> screen and rotate the phone while leaving my fingers locked in position. It
> all depends on how I'm positioned in relation to the phone. Sitting,
> stretched out on the couch, reclined in bed etc.
> 
> I think I probably have more difficulty with the four finger tap for getting
> to the top or bottom of the screen. That's more a function of my big mits
> and the narrowness of the iPhone though I imagine.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
> 
> The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or the
> MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given
> John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for
> me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index fingers
> and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but requires
> both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone.
> 
> K
> 
> On 5/31/12, Rob Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it 
>> was in
>> 
>> control,  but for sure using  the wider rotor might have mileage.
>> 
>> Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for 
>> consistency. The
>> 
>> first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just 
>> ensures the
>> 
>> app is focussed.
>> 
>> RobH@Home.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jon Pierson" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM
>> Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor 
>> and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from 
>> session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my 
>> abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to 
>> be to my liking, until today!
>> 
>> I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was 
>> possible and apparently the answer is, a lot.
>> 
>> What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the 
>> phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect 
>> this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen. 
>> Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of 
>> your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction.
>> As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up 
>> consistently.
>> 
>> I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who 
>> swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of 
>> the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the 
>> result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the 
>> first and every try.
>> 
>> So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the 
>> results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far.
>> Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
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