Hi, It'll depend on kinds of data that iTunes backs up from iDevice. If it copies application directories that is also used by jailbreak apps, then there is a potential for them to show up (at least in the file system) on a non jailbroken device; but here's the catch: even if the jailbreak apps do find their way into new devices (non jailbroken), there's no way to find and run them, as the operating system blocks these thanks to what's called privileges - under Unix (for which iOS/Mac OS X family is based on), you cannot run an app that requires higher user level unless you allow it yourself or through some exploits (essentially, a jailbreak package takes advantage of security holes or bugs to exploit what's usually termed "privilege escalation") to modify the behavior of the OS, thereby allowing jailbreak apps to run (it is like using a Windows PC as an admin with User Account Control turned off)). So, although jailbreak can be fun, it also has security issues if not handled properly. As for upgrading, think of it like this: suppose you're upgrading a car engine, and you wish to make sure that the engine you are working with is the kind that the maker approves. One day, a friend of yours decided to test an engine enhancer, and as a result, modified the engine behavior a bit. Then you decide the upgrade the modified engine to the newer one, but found that the engine was not behaving as you expected. Moreover, the upgrade kit would not work on the current engine due to some deeper modifications your friend has made. So you ask your friend to undo his modification so you can upgrade the engine after. Similar thing can be said about operating systems: the OS maker expects certain behavior, but the target guy is acting odd, so the OS maker asks the user to restore the original functionality before upgrading the OS. Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Jail breaking However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right? You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right? On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Scott, > You got it. > > Jon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Jail breaking > > John, > > What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak > the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I > assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access > to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: > >> Hi Scott, >> A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the >> answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You >> simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore >> everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Scott Howell >> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Jail breaking >> >> Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the >> latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for >> that > version. >> I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained >> from the non-Apple sources. >> >> On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >>> I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone >>> and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever >>> unbroken. >>> >>> On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: >>>> Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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