Hello all,

I would like someone to explain to me why there is a NDA associated with a 
public beta.  Anyone in who wants the beta can get it so why not discuss it?

Thanks
Steve

> On Jul 12, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That’s the exact rout I’m taking. That’s not to say the software has gotten 
> worse over the years, I just want to save the $99 for other more important 
> expenses.
>> On Jul 12, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I am currently  still signed up for the Apple developer program and 
>> installed via iTunes after downloading the full installer package. My annual 
>> Apple Developer subscription is coming up for renewal at the end of July, 
>> but I don't think I am going to renew it especially since I am also 
>> registered for the public beta program and while I used to enjoy getting my 
>> hands on a new iOS version right after WWDC, I am not that keen about it any 
>> more and happily wait a month or six weeks for the public beta.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 9
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> 
>> Did you install iOS 9 Beta over-the-air or via iTunes?  If you installed 
>> OTA, from which website did you obtain the installation profile?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 9
>> 
>> As others have already pointed out, the public beta program is free. 
>> However, especially the first public beta can often have many bugs and you 
>> really have to be willing to put up with those. In this case, the third beta 
>> for developers became the first public beta and I can assure you that there 
>> are issues with various aspects of iOS. Apps may crash or not load at all, 
>> SIRI and Voiceover may not function as expected and so on. Being on the 
>> cutting edge can be fun, but it is not for the faint of heart. If you rely 
>> on your iOS device a lot and don't have a secondary device like an iPad or 
>> iPod Touch you could use for the beta I'd think twice. I have been enrolled 
>> in the developer program and have beta tested at least the last 3 or so iOS 
>> versions, but in the case of iOS 9 I downgraded back to 8.4 after Beta 2 
>> came out and I believe I will wait until at least one more beta version has 
>> been released before trying it again.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iOS 9
>> 
>> Is the beta free for anyone to install? I know you can't talk about what 
>> features and stuff, but I was just curious if I could install it, or do I 
>> have to pay?
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
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