I think, Devin that you are right when it comes to having companies contact blind people but wrong to state that companies are stupid. Do I think their is a market for such devices, maybe, especially for those who like me, love Braille. However, even I, the Braille addict cannot justify purchasing one of these things. *** In the midst of a storm is Emanuel, God with us, enough? - Doug Dunbar
> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: > > Companies are getting more stupid every day. Rule 1. Contact actual blind > people before making something, or all you'll do is make yourself look > incredibly stupid. > Now, if you want to make braille, make an 18 cell or even 14 cell device for > mobile, and 40 or 32 for computer usage. Want to make the price go down? Make > a braille display with 12 cells for less than $100 and you'll gain my respect > as Apple has. But until then, braille, my precious, we must be apart in the > digital age. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> My own opinion, since that seems to be the thing for this thread, is that >> four cells is just not enough. Even assuming spaces don't matter, imagine >> trying to read a hundred-character message or tweet? Unless there's an >> ingenious panning solution in this watch, I can't imagine how whacking the >> "Advance" button twenty-five times would be efficient. Of course, I'd love >> to try this thing out, as the price is low for what it is, and I'm just >> intrigued. I'm also very skeptical that this will prove useful. It seems >> easier to just leave a small braille display hooked on your belt or over >> your shoulder, if braille is important to you. After all, would that not >> provide the same kind of silent notification/reply options that a smart >> watch can? I'm not sure. >>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Kerri G <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Still further, for my 3 cents worth, which you are also getting for free, >>> grin, if you are navigating with your guide dog or cane, you have to stop, >>> put the harness or cane in the other hand and read your smart watch, this >>> is one time I prefer siri or Talk back or voice over. >>> We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in >>> which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thinking this out a little further, can you wear a 20 cell display on your >>>> wrist? >>>> >>>> I’m not going to buy one, but just like the apple watch, (which I am also >>>> not going to buy,) you are paying for the convenience. >>>> Just my two cents worth, which you are getting for free, grin. >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:36 AM >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Subject: RE: A Braille Smart Watch? >>>> >>>> Let’s think this out. At 4 cells for $300, when you look at 20 cells, >>>> you’re back in the price range of what you can get a 20-cell display for. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:24 PM >>>> To: ViPone list <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> Subject: A Braille Smart Watch? >>>> >>>> I know nothing more than what is in the article below. This was in an >>>> Email I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought some >>>> folks might be interested. >>>> >>>> The link to the article is at the end. >>>> >>>> Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch >>>> >>>> Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier >>>> >>>> By Alexandra Ossola >>>> Posted July 28, 2015 >>>> >>>> now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch# >>>> >>>> Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the >>>> shifting pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down the >>>> technological literacy for the blind, but has also impaired their reading >>>> literacy, cutting them off from most information that isn't published in >>>> print. Some tech companies have found workarounds, like having Siri read >>>> texts or creating braille e-readers, but they are often clunky and >>>> expensive. >>>> >>>> A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution. They >>>> created >>>> Dot >>>> , the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of dots. This >>>> inexpensive gadget could help the blind catch up to the age of >>>> smartwatches, the sales of which have increased 475 percent in the last >>>> year thanks to the Apple Watch. But it could also be used as an >>>> educational tool. >>>> >>>> “Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for example, >>>> you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice, which is >>>> impersonal,” Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim told >>>> Tech in Asia >>>> . “Wouldn’t you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend’s voice >>>> saying it in your head?” >>>> >>>> The Dot wearable looks like a cross between a Fitbit and a Pebble Time, >>>> Alphr notes >>>> . On its face, it has four cells each with six active dots, which can >>>> raise or lower to make four braille letters at a time. It links up with >>>> Bluetooth to convert text from apps like iMessage into their braille >>>> letter equivalents with the user’s voice commands. The device can last for >>>> five days without stopping to charge. >>>> >>>> One key feature of the Dot wearable is its cost. Unlike braille e-readers, >>>> which can cost thousands of dollars, the device is slated to cost less >>>> than $300 when it hits the U.S. market in December. >>>> >>>> But Dot envisions bringing braille beyond the wrist. The inventors have >>>> tested braille screen modules at ATMs and train stations, programming them >>>> to display information that regularly changes, such as account balances or >>>> train schedules. After the wearable’s launch in December, the startup will >>>> shift towards the public sector, which it anticipates could be its >>>> largest market. >>>> >>>> http://www.popsci.com/now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch >>>> <http://www.popsci.com/now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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