While new features are good, the accessibility team still has a long way to go with even the basics of braille. For example, most of the time, when I type, the braille display says "bottum of document" when I press space. Secondly, iOS has never been able to show formatting info like italics or bold to the braille display. But the Mac can't either. I know braille isn't used much at all, but neither was Apple in the early 2000's. Can't Apple root for the underdog, like its loyal fans did for it? Braille has been avalable on many versions, but the presenting of braille has never changed for the better at all, on Mac nor iOS. I have reported all the problems I've had on plenty versions of the beta, and they still are there, even though example, the mail freezing after sending a message is a constant bug, that is, it happens all the time, and system logs back it up. But ah well, if Apple want to lie and say iOS9 is the most stable version they've ever released, then fine. The fact that Apple sn't even support MTP for the Vario Ultra, my braille display, is disheartening and makes the "it just works" attitude applied to Apple just not true anymore. I feel like they've just gotten too big, too full and happy, so that they have forgotten what like to be small.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:18 AM, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I disagree with you. The problems which Apple had with 8.0 were > company wide. That is why Apple spent most of it's efforts getting rid > of bugs for 9.0 instead of new features. > >> On 9/11/15, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >> I think Apple accessibility aren't nearly as strong as they once were, >> judging by how many bugs have been in iOS since 7. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> They haven't seen it yet? Clearly, I don't get something. I thought the >>> accessibility team were the people who monitored how voiceover got >>> implemented or got taken into account when things were done. If they >>> haven't seen it, who the heck is making sure voiceover is properly taken >>> into account if possible? Color me confused. >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:27 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I asked Apple accessibility and since they haven't seen it yet they are >>>> wondering the same. >>>> >>>> John Diakogeorgiou >>>> >>>>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is an interesting article. I keep wondering how they will >>>>> efficiently implement voiceover in conjunction with this new technology. >>>>> Reading this article, it seems like it might be hard to do, especially >>>>> with the Peak part. >>>>> Mary >>>>> http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/10/force-touch-gets-redefined-in-the-iphone-6s-with-3d-touch >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - 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