Yeesh, that's nasty. I'll have to test for those issues and write Apple Accessibility with my findings.
Thanks, Ari > On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Don & Cher <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, read below... Are we the only ones using iTunes for playlists? > > > From: Don & Cher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:23 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists > > These are the messages I've sent to Apple re this problem. I hope those of > you who have noticed issues are also writing :) > > From: Don & Cher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:19 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes > > These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in playlists and were > created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3: > > *Selection: > Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, selection no longer > seems to follow the cursor keys- so standard windows keyboard commands for > cut or copy result in a "nothing selected" error message. It is impossible to > re-arrange the order of songs created under these versions of iTunes. The > only playlists which are still functional are those which were created in > prior versions of iTunes. > > *Navigation: > Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or so lines, the > selection focus is lost. You cannot read the information or proceed further > in that direction without first arrowing backward one line- which then allows > you to move forward one more line- thus advancing only one line at a time > (backwards then forwards) in a see-saw fashion. The cursor actually does > move but the focus seems to be lost and the new song information is not read. > Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or beginning of the > playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on that line. It is > necessary to arrow away from that song and back before the information can be > read. > Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read the information for > the song on which the cursor lands. > > *Nuisance artwork: > With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line of the playlist. > Even copying the songs from an old playlist without artwork into a new one > created under these versions produces a playlist with the artwork icons. > > *Nuisance iTunes becoming unresponsive: > Accidental use of the standard windows command Control-Home results in iTunes > freezing. This command is so commonly used for various purposes by keyboard > users that this is bothersome. > > This is my previous message to you re these issues: > > From: Don & Cher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in iTunes 12.2.1 > > Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not accessible to persons > relying on keyboard accessibility to work with them. I phoned Apple > Accessibility recently to see if the tech could replicate my problem. He > verified that with the latest iTunes, you cannot use keyboard shortcuts to > select, copy or move songs in new playlists with the keyboard (using a PC). > He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have JAWS installed, > and could not perform these functions either. I can still use all these > keyboard commands within playlists created prior to installing the new > iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and rename it (so I can have > a editable playlist) the newly duplicated playlist is non-editable- > apparently because it was duplicated under the new iTunes. The only way I can > add songs to one of these new playlists is by using 'add to playlist' on the > context menu- and the order of songs is unchangeable by this method- I.E. the > order you add the songs is unchangeable after the fact. So, basically > playlists are not very useful. > > Cher > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Gary Petraccaro > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists > > I was told by one accessability tech to talk to my screen reader developer. > For an Apple Program? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don & Cher > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:22 PM > Subject: Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists > > These are the messages I've sent to Apple re this problem. I hope those of > you who have noticed issues are also writing :) > > From: Don & Cher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:19 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes > > These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in playlists and were > created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3: > > *Selection: > Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, selection no longer > seems to follow the cursor keys- so standard windows keyboard commands for > cut or copy result in a "nothing selected" error message. It is impossible to > re-arrange the order of songs created under these versions of iTunes. The > only playlists which are still functional are those which were created in > prior versions of iTunes. > > *Navigation: > Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or so lines, the > selection focus is lost. You cannot read the information or proceed further > in that direction without first arrowing backward one line- which then allows > you to move forward one more line- thus advancing only one line at a time > (backwards then forwards) in a see-saw fashion. The cursor actually does > move but the focus seems to be lost and the new song information is not read. > Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or beginning of the > playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on that line. It is > necessary to arrow away from that song and back before the information can be > read. > Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read the information for > the song on which the cursor lands. > > *Nuisance artwork: > With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line of the playlist. > Even copying the songs from an old playlist without artwork into a new one > created under these versions produces a playlist with the artwork icons. > > *Nuisance iTunes becoming unresponsive: > Accidental use of the standard windows command Control-Home results in iTunes > freezing. This command is so commonly used for various purposes by keyboard > users that this is bothersome. > > This is my previous message to you re these issues: > > From: Don & Cher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in iTunes 12.2.1 > > Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not accessible to persons > relying on keyboard accessibility to work with them. I phoned Apple > Accessibility recently to see if the tech could replicate my problem. He > verified that with the latest iTunes, you cannot use keyboard shortcuts to > select, copy or move songs in new playlists with the keyboard (using a PC). > He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have JAWS installed, > and could not perform these functions either. I can still use all these > keyboard commands within playlists created prior to installing the new > iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and rename it (so I can have > a editable playlist) the newly duplicated playlist is non-editable- > apparently because it was duplicated under the new iTunes. The only way I can > add songs to one of these new playlists is by using 'add to playlist' on the > context menu- and the order of songs is unchangeable by this method- I.E. the > order you add the songs is unchangeable after the fact. So, basically > playlists are not very useful. > > Cher > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. 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