Hello, Here's what I have. With gmail, I have set to only download mail that arrives from now on. I also have delete mail's copy chosen. On the other hand, the clients (2) are set to delete after receiving. But the issue here is, if I use IMAP, the POP devices would redownload what I have already dealt with, and that's just pointless. As you have said, neither are more secure, as I said, I could use IMAP, if I wanted to, but I don't. Hence I was wondering what clients are usable. Although, my configuration seems to be different to yours. And let's remember, I don't know what its like to email on a touch screen, so not sure whether it would become my primary client, either.
----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 4:23 am Subject: Re: POP was: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad > > > It's all up to how you configure things. If you're using POP3 on one > device and IMAP on another then you can definitely get the same messages > downloaded to multiple devices. The key is that if you're using POP3 > then you want to think through your settings. This is true whether > you're using POP3 alone on multiple devices or POP3 in conjuntion with IMAP.. > > All the article is saying is that you don't want to configure POP3 so > that you're downloading and storing the same message to multiple > devices. Basically, you want to designate one system as the system that > will store all of your messages long term, and on this system you'll > want to download your messages and remove them from the server. On the > other devices you want to configure things so that you leave them on the > server or just delete them from the server if you delete them from your > device. This is how I had things configured when I was using POP3 on > multiple devices before I switched to IMAP. > > I'm sure IMAP fans will say that POP3 is more confusing and this is why > you should go with IMAP, and that's true for people who don't want to > think through how they want to manage their email, but if you have a > strategy for how you want to work with your email, and POP3 matches that > strategy, then that's what you should go with. > > People will also tell you that IMAP is a newer and more modern protocol. > You'll hear that POP3 is older and out dated. POP3 was invented in 1984 > and IMAP in 1986. They're just different and have different purposes. > Neither one is newer or more modern than the other. IMAP is not a > revolutionary or innovative technology, it just syncs your email with a > server. IMAP has grown in popularity as people started to access their > email from multiple devices and multiple clients, which makes sense > since that's the whole point behind IMAP. If you don't want your email > stored on a server and you don't manipulate your email a lot from > multiple devices or clients then IMAP could just be a lot of unnecessary > overhead for you. > > On 10/03/2015 05:36 PM, Rajmund wrote: > > Hello, > > Did I misunderstand? I thought it said that both would download the same > > messages? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 11:28 pm > > Subject: Re: POP was: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad > > > >> > >> > >> That's not exactly what the article said. It did recommend using IMAP > >> for mobile devices. It also said that you shouldn't use POP3 to download > >> and store your messages on multiple devices, but these were two separate > >> statements. Here's the passage I think you're referring to: > >> > >> The downside of POP3 in a multi-device world is that you'll have to take > >> some precautions and think hard about how to access email on a mobile > >> device. > >> > >> As for smartphones and tablets, you should still use IMAP there if > >> possible, even if you're using POP3 on your PC. The last thing you want > >> to do is download email to both your phone and your PC via POP3, since > >> you'll end up with two separate repositories of email: stuff downloaded > >> to your phone and stuff downloaded to your PC. It's a nightmare. > >> > >> On 10/03/2015 04:38 PM, Rajmund wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> The article said that if you download with POP, the mobile device should > >>> still be on IMAP, to avoid everything from redownloading. But it doesn't > >>> redownload, at least mine don't. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:16 pm > >>> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sorry, I don't understand your mesage. You can configure POP3 to leave > >>>> messages on the server or download them to your client and remove them > >>>> from the server. IMAP will always leave your messages on the server, and > >>>> if you're going to read them on a client then they will be downloaded to > >>>> that client. > >>>> > >>>> On 10/03/2015 03:55 PM, Rajmund wrote: > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> Disagree with the article. If I receive with one unit, neither does GMX > >>>>> or gmail redownload them again on the other unit. True, they are note > >>>>> taker. > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> > >>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:03 pm > >>>>> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I guess that depends on how much you trust your own security procedures > >>>>>> versus some system administrator at a large company. Plus, email stored > >>>>>> on your own device won't be subject to data mining or a search warrant > >>>>>> processed against your email provider. Here's an article on why someone > >>>>>> might want to still use POP3 which includes a discussion on security > >>>>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2838189/two-good-reasons-to-stick-with-pop3-email-over-imap.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Are you saying that the fact that POP3 mail is stored on your own > >>>>>> device > >>>>>> is the bases behind your statement that IMAP is more secure? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Note that IMASP is plenty secure for me, and it's the protocol I > >>>>>> switched to myself a few years ago. POP3 still has some advantages over > >>>>>> IMAP though, and I can see why some would still choose to use it. I'm > >>>>>> just suspicious of unsupported claims like this when they're counter to > >>>>>> common sense or my own knowledge or experience. I'd caution anyone to > >>>>>> take much stock in such a claim and encourage people to do more > >>>>>> research > >>>>>> themselves before just taking the word of someone on a public mailing > >>>>>> list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 10/03/2015 02:37 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >>>>>>> Having your messages stored on your own device rather than a server > >>>>>>> seems pretty insecure to me...but hey, what do I know? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Christopher Chaltain > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm curious, how is POP3 less secure? IMAP has plenty of advantages > >>>>>>>> over POP3, but I've never heard security is one of them. In fact, > >>>>>>>> some people are concerned about the security of IMAP since your > >>>>>>>> email messages are stored on a server and not your own device. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 10/03/2015 02:16 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Yes, you can only use map now. Besides, pop3 is less secure. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Rajmund <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>>>>> Can I chime in, please? Where's POP3? Within IOS8.3, I could get > >>>>>>>>>> to it > >>>>>>>>>> from other. Now, however, I can only see the incoming server's > >>>>>>>>>> heading. Did Apple :( :( :( remove POP? And yeppers, using an > >>>>>>>>>> IPad.. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: Mary Otten <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>> To:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 7:10 pm > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I have had an iPad first generation and then an iPad mini two for > >>>>>>>>>>> sometime now. I don't like the mail on this device, because > >>>>>>>>>>> whenever > >>>>>>>>>>> I open the mail app, it automatically opens into a mail message > >>>>>>>>>>> rather than into my mailbox list of messages. I have looked > >>>>>>>>>>> through > >>>>>>>>>>> settings, and I don't see a way to change this. Even if I close > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> mail app with the messages list in view, the next time I open it, > >>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>> opens with A message opened. Is there a way that I have been > >>>>>>>>>>> missing > >>>>>>>>>>> all these years to force this app open with the messages list in > >>>>>>>>>>> view > >>>>>>>>>>> rather than having an individual message open? 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