Hello, I have a braille sense, though, not a book sense. This is an eloquence only device. And its not that I can't get used to new things, its just as if voice over doesn't consider them enough, regardless of what voice.
----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 3:36 pm Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks? > > > I don't understand the statement that Eloquence is all that HIMS has. I > have a Booksense from HIMS, and it doesn't have Eloquence. I believe it > uses Neospeech voices. > > IMHO, I certainly agree people can have preferences, and I'd never > question anyone else's preferences, but I've never had a problem getting > used to a new speech synthesizer. I remember preferring the old Echo PC > over the DEC Talk because although the voice might not have been as > pleasant, the synthesizer was much more responsive. Right now I prefer > eSpeak and Eloquence, although I also use Samantha and the Google TTS > daily, because I just think I'm more productive and efficient with those > synthesizers. I still find them more responsive, and the more "robotic" > voices, lend themselves to greater speaking rates, at least in my opinion. > > On 10/10/2015 08:59 AM, Rajmund wrote: > > Hello, Actually, I don't use eloquence because of pleasure. I use it > > because that's all HIMS has. I like keynote, I'll admit that. But I'm > > still saying, that while it may not ignore it, the way voice over itself > > handles punctuation is different to everything I have heard in my life. > > Because some voices handle it well on other products, and all voices do the > > same, I think its the way apple has it. Well, I'll get used to it. Thanks > > all :) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:55 pm > > Subject: RE: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks? > > > >> > >> > >> I think this falls under the category of the subjective nature of speech > >> synthesizers. It is really a matter of personal preference. > >> > >> I personally can't stand Eloquence or Keynote. > >> But that is my point, everyone hears differently and has different aspects > >> of voices they like and dislike. > >> > >> I truly hope you find a voice that works for you. > >> > >> Take care, > >> Richard > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > >> Of Rajmund > >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:38 AM > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks? > >> > >> Hello, > >> I don't have windows, just heard it. I am used to eloquence, and the old > >> keynote voice. Strangely, though, when I played with a first generation > >> stream, on that, Samantha handled the punctuation marks better, in my > >> opinion.. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:29 pm > >> Subject: RE: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks? > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Which speech synthesizer are you using on Windows? > >>> If you are also using Eloquence there, then it could be you are so used > >>> to the way Eloquence speaks that you have not gotten used to the other > >>> voices. > >>> Hopefully, it will come in time. > >>> > >>> Richard > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > >>> Behalf Of Rajmund > >>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:58 AM > >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks? > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> Hmm. Strange. As I said, its probably just me not used to it, but I do > >>> find punctuated messages more clear on windows, or note takers, for that > >>> matter.. Oh, sorry for the spelling errors, I thought I capitalised I, > >>> and added the ' obviously I haven't. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 1:35 pm > >>> Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks? > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I just read both your message and Alex Hall's message in this thread at > >>>> 80% and 85% using the American Female Siri voice and the pauses for > >>>> commas were very clear to me. > >>>> Richard > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Oct 10, 2015, at 5:06 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Well, I'm trying all voices, and i think the Ssri voices are slightly > >>>>> better, but not there yet. Ill get used to it, I guess., > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from an IPad > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 10 Oct 2015, at 12:34, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have to say, I've never experienced this. I use Samantha or one of > >>>>>> the American Siri voices all the time, between 75 and 85 percent, and > >>>>>> I use Alex on my Mac. so I have a lot of experience at the speed > >>>>>> you're using. I suppose it's something you get used to, because it's > >>>>>> something I've never picked up on. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2015, at 04:27, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello All, > >>>>>>> So, let me just try and explain this. As many of you know, and as my > >>>>>>> signature suggests, am coming from note takers. So that's mainly > >>>>>>> things like eloquence, and a few others. So here's my issue. And I > >>>>>>> know this will sound like I'm picky, but really. I have the note > >>>>>>> takers on the fastest speech rate, and I find them too slow. With > >>>>>>> voice over, however, I find 75% too slow, but if I increase it, I > >>>>>>> understand no word, if it reads a long passage, but otherwise, too > >>>>>>> slow. So something like I had a nice day, though. And i had a nice > >>>>>>> day though will sound the same. Its as if commas are completely > >>>>>>> ignored , rather than insert a pause, etc. Guess its the emotion, or > >>>>>>> something. Anyway, anyone noticed this? If so, have you found a > >>>>>>> particular voice that was better at it than others? I have so far > >>>>>>> tried Daniel, Samantha, Female British Siri, and just trying Alex. > >>>>>>> But if someone does know of something, please, tell me about it? Or > >>>>>>> do you just eventually get used to it? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PS. When I say increased, I mean something like 80%, and its too > >>>>>>> quick. Otherwise,, too slow. And I do get a headache from slow > >>>>>>> speech rates. > >>>>>>> Anyway, many thanks! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone > >>>>>>> list. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >>>>>>> itself. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > >>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at > >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive..com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > >>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>>>>>> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone > >>>>>> list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >>>>>> itself. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - 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