Hello, Actually, I don't use eloquence because of pleasure. I use it because 
that's all HIMS has. I like keynote, I'll  admit that. But  I'm still saying, 
that while it may not ignore it, the way voice over itself handles punctuation 
is different to everything I have heard in my life. Because some voices handle 
it well on other products, and all voices do the same, I think its the way 
apple has it. Well, I'll get used to  it. Thanks all :)

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner  <richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:55 pm
Subject: RE: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?

>
>
> I think this falls under the category of the subjective nature  of speech 
> synthesizers.  It is really a matter of personal preference.
> 
> I personally can't stand Eloquence or Keynote.
> But that is my point, everyone hears differently and has different aspects of 
> voices they like and dislike.  
> 
> I truly hope you find a voice that works for you.
> 
> Take care,
> Richard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?
> 
> Hello,
> I don't have windows, just heard it. I am used to eloquence, and the old 
> keynote voice. Strangely, though, when I played with a first generation 
> stream, on that, Samantha handled the punctuation marks better, in my 
> opinion. 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Turner  <richardturne...@outlook.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:29 pm
> Subject: RE: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?
> 
> >
> >
> > Which speech synthesizer are you using on Windows?
> > If you are also using Eloquence there, then it could be you are so used to 
> > the way Eloquence speaks that you have not gotten used to the other voices.
> > Hopefully, it will come in time.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Rajmund
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:58 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Hmm. Strange. As I said, its probably just me not used to it, but I do find 
> > punctuated messages more clear on windows, or note takers, for that 
> > matter.. Oh, sorry for the spelling errors, I thought I capitalised I, and 
> > added the ' obviously I haven't. 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard Turner  <richardturne...@outlook.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, October 10, 2015 1:35 pm
> > Subject: Re: VOICE over ignoring punctuation marks?
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > I just read both your message and Alex Hall's message in this thread at 
> > > 80% and 85% using the American Female Siri voice and the pauses for 
> > > commas were very clear to me.
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Oct 10, 2015, at 5:06 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I'm trying all voices, and i think the Ssri voices are slightly 
> > > > better, but not there yet. Ill get used to it, I guess.,
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from an  IPad
> > > > 
> > > >> On 10 Oct 2015, at 12:34, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> I have to say, I've never experienced this. I use Samantha or one of 
> > > >> the American Siri voices all the time, between 75 and 85 percent, and 
> > > >> I use Alex on my Mac. so I have a lot of experience at the speed 
> > > >> you're using. I suppose it's something you get used to, because it's 
> > > >> something I've never picked up on.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> 
> > > >>> On Oct 10, 2015, at 04:27, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Hello All,
> > > >>> So, let me just try and explain this. As many of you know, and as my 
> > > >>> signature suggests, am coming from note takers. So that's mainly 
> > > >>> things like eloquence, and a few others. So here's my issue. And I 
> > > >>> know this will sound like  I'm picky, but really. I have the note 
> > > >>> takers on the fastest speech rate, and I find them too slow. With 
> > > >>> voice over, however, I find 75% too slow, but if I increase it, I 
> > > >>> understand no word, if it reads a long passage, but otherwise, too 
> > > >>> slow. So something like I had a nice day, though. And i had a nice 
> > > >>> day though will sound the same. Its as if commas are completely 
> > > >>> ignored , rather than insert a pause, etc. Guess its the emotion, or 
> > > >>> something. Anyway, anyone noticed this? If so,  have you found a 
> > > >>> particular voice that was better at it than others? I have so far 
> > > >>> tried Daniel, Samantha, Female British Siri, and just trying Alex. 
> > > >>> But if someone does know of something, please, tell  me about it? Or 
> > > >>> do you just eventually get used to it?
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> PS. When I say increased, I mean something like 80%, and its too 
> > > >>> quick. Otherwise,,  too slow. And I do get a headache from slow 
> > > >>> speech rates.
> > > >>> Anyway, many thanks!
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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