That can be said of all companies. I feel that people sometimes expect too much from Apple.
John Diakogeorgiou > On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well said, as usual, Jonathan. I think for those with a third-party Apple TV > waiting a bit is the way to go or get the fourth gen Apple TV and enjoy it > for what it offers and use it side by side with the third gen. But for many > like me who never upgraded from the second gen to the third gen I think > getting the new Apple TV is a no-brainer. The second gen Apple TV doesn’t > support Netflix audio descriptions anyways and there is no Youtube app any > more so even though the new Apple TV needs some major feature additions, I > think it’s not much of a step back compared to the second gen with maybe the > exception of Bluetooth keyboards, but maybe as somebody pointed out, this > really is coming very soon although if it were coming within days or a week, > why ship them without. Somehow I think Apple is not going to push an update > before many customers have even received their unit. > Despite everything I read and hear from the early reviews, I am excited that > mine has also shipped now and the UPS tracking information says it will be > delivered next Friday so maybe it’s even going to be Thursday and definitely > it’s earlier than November 11 to 13 which is what my order said originally. > I am really surprised the there is no native Podcast app or that the remote > app isn’t working with the Apple TV. I just looked it up on the App Store and > it says: > > Note: Remote is only compatible with Apple TV (3rd generation or earlier) > > It shows the app was last updatedin April, so hopefully we’ll see an update > to that app very soon which will add support for the fourth gen Apple TV. It > also appears that the reviews for the Remote app are dismal, the latest > version gets 2 Stars. It’s interesting how Apple makes some stuff and has > some services which work so well and are so easy to use and other products > and services they just can’t seem to get right. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 9:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV > > Hi Brian and all, I agree with you. The term half baked Apples comes to mind > at the moment. It has huge potential, and I'm sure it is going to be really > good, but to me it's not even feeling like a 1.0 product right now. On the > third gen, we used to use the Radio app, for listening to Internet radio > stations including the one I manage, Mushroom FM. Apple hasn't included it > with this release, and there's no equivalent app in the App Store that I've > been able to find. > We listen to a lot of podcasts on the Apple TV. But Apple hasn't even done a > version of its own Podcasts app, even though there was one for the third > generation. > For both of these issues, Airplay is a work-around, but then you're involving > another device, which in my view is a step backwards. Hopefully Downcast or > Overcast will come to the platform soon for Podcasts, and TuneIn Radio would > be great for Mushroom FM and similar stations. > When, in the podcast, it became clear to me that Bluetooth keyboard support > is not in the software right now, I consoled myself by thinking that I could > use the excellent Remote app for iOS and Watch OS, and control the TV that > way. But you can't, Apple's own Remote app doesn't yet work with Apple's own > brand new Apple TV. > It's also curious to me that despite the great storage and fast chip, you get > no choice of voice in VO, unless you change your region. > On the third-party side, we've lost Netflix with audio description, and Hulu > isn't accessible. > And as Sieghard has said in this thread and I pointed out in my podcast, Siri > isn't supported here in New Zealand, even though New Zealand English is a > choice in iOS. > I think all these things may well be addressed, but if you have a functional > third generation unit and enjoy it for some of these functions, you might > want to hang on a bit. For those who think it's fun to be on the cutting > edge, this product shows a lot of promise and I'm sure it's going to get very > good over time. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 2/11/2015, at 3:54 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think as more developers get a hold of the AppleTV it will get better, but > the fact that you cannot pair a bluetooth keyboard, that Netflix left > described video out as a option, and that typing is dreadful I would not run > out and buy a AppleTv yet. Very disappointed in it so far. > > On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:15 AM, chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ar ok, just got this message so please disregard my query. > > On 01/11/2015 12:22, Gadget Girl wrote: > > Hello everyone. I was in the Apple Store yesterday and was told by a manager > that an update to the software is coming which will enable the Apple > bluetooth keyboard and the new Apple magic keyboard to work with the new > Apple TV. He said the update should be out in days. FYI. > > Regards, > Gadget Girl > Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri. > > > On Nov 1, 2015, at 1:48 AM, chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes so I encourage anyone who relies on a bluetooth keyboard to think twice > before purchasing the new Apple TV. At least the third generation will be > around for the forseeable future. > > > On 01/11/2015 03:46, Mary Otten wrote: > Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in > the coming months. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new > keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV > has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation. > > Cheers, > Ben. > > > On 11/1/15, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting > it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results > been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the > fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because > they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It > is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the > author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did > not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that > might not be an option. 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