I wonder if they could write code that says something like: if voiceover is on,
Check to see if a headphone it's plugged in.
If no headphone is plugged in, and voiceover is on

Display dialog ("please plug in a headphone without a mic. Quote)
Else
Do whatever the normal true play function is.

> On Dec 12, 2015, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Interesting how one sometimes doesn't think of the easy answers, but this one 
> sure makes sense. I'll bring this up with Sonos.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 12:08 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> What about headphones without a mic, then the standard mic would get used?
> 
> Cheers,
> Brett.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 5:02 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Yes, but TruePlay is listening to what the microphone picks up and I believe 
> this has to be the external microphone since the microphone on the headset 
> doesn't pick up noise/sound the same way as the external microphone. So while 
> plugging in a headset would get rid of Voiceover interference, it would also 
> route any listening to the headset microphone.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Ruby
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:54 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> I would think if one used headphones there would be none.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> Hi again, Brett,
> 
> If you do get a set of Play 3 or whatever and figure out the TruePlay let me 
> know your experience. I'll definitely bring this up with Sonos again to see 
> if they can't figure out a way around the Voiceover interference.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 1:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I do see myself changing them regularly between the bedroom, kitchin, sunroom 
> and the carport. 
> 
> If their trueplay works as well as the inaccessible one did on my home 
> theoter system that just died, it would be a shame not to be able to use it. 
> That's why I am wondering if the instructions that are given are randomised 
> according to the current acoustics, or if a regular patton is used. I would 
> suspect that it would just be a regular patton. If so, if we could find out 
> what the patton is, we could at least give it a try and see if it improves 
> the sound, if not, you can revert the changes. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Brett.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 1:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> Hi Brett, Krister and Jim,
> 
> As long as you don't change the position of your speakers doing the TruePlay 
> tuning is a one-time process so it would be very easy to do if you asked a 
> sighted friend or family member to help doing this. Once it's done it does 
> not interfere with Voiceover in any way.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:39 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> I am just about to set the house up with Sonos, I am wondering if it is 
> possible to find out where the True Play button is on screen, then toggle 
> VoiceOver offf and activate it? If so, we would just need to know the order 
> of the instructions that Sonos gives and we may at least have a work around 
> to do this independantly. 
> 
> I had to have help to do this with saround sound systems I have had in the 
> past and it did make a huge difference. It would be a shame if we couldn't 
> find a work around to do this independantly, especially when you can easily 
> move Sonos speakers from room to room. 
> 
> Any input will be greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Cheers, Brett. 
> 
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 8 Dec 2015, at 6:31 PM, Jim Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes voiceover interfears with how true play works. Wish they could enable it 
>> though and one could use a headphone with it. Did not get to try that before 
>> they disabled it when voiceover was running.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:52 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
>> 
>> That is correct, I have been beta testing for Sonos for some years now and 
>> TruePlay is not currently supported when Voiceover is running.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Robin Frost
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 2:41 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I can confirm your experience. From what I'm told this is normal behavior 
>> for now.
>> I've been told that they haven't figured how to get it to work properly 
>> without VoiceOver interfering with it. So the app detects when VoiceOver is 
>> running and the button for it is hidden.
>> If this isn't fully accurate or if there's been an update I'm sure others 
>> who know more than do I will chime in and elaborate.  I hope this helps.
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 5:16 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> As you probably know, at least you who have Sonos, they recently introduced 
>> a feature they call ”True play” which apparently is some kind of 
>> compensation for the room in which your Sonos player is. This feature has a 
>> setting where you set the Trueplay thingy up, only this feature isn’t 
>> accessible. I can not see the button for it at all. It’s supposed to be 
>> under the room setting and EQ but it isn’t accessible. This is on the iPhone 
>> in the Sonos app.
>> Could anyone confirm this or tell if there’s a workaround of some sort?
>> /Krister
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