I think when it comes to things like typing whether on the regular virtual keyboard or Fleksie and taking pictures whether for a photo or inside an app like Camfind, KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See etc. results vary greatly. Krister, for example, stated several times that he can't take a good picture if his life depended on it yet he is proficient with Fleksie which many others have problems with. This just goes to show that we all have different skills, talents and some are good at something without trying hard and others just can't do it. I tried Fleksie again after reading Krister's message and while I was able to type some stuff, I don't have the patience to spend a lot of time with it to see if I can get really good at it. Just as others I had a heck of a time to get back to the regular keyboard and I followed Krister's advice about making sure voice guidance was on, key clicks was on, I initially made the keyboard large, but think that actually made it harder for me etc. One thing I seemed to have a hard time finding was that button to switch keyboards, on the regular Apple keyboard it is easy to find right to the left of the spacebar but unless you turn spacebar on the Fleksie keyboard has no spacebar since you swipe to insert a space. I was also a bit confused by all these themes and stuff. I'd really love it if Krister would take the time to produce a Podcast going over this from start to finish, e.g. how to first configure Fleksy and then to be inspired by what is possible I'd like to hear him type out a longer piece of text in an app like Notes just to see what is possible. How about it mein Freund!
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Monica Jones Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 9:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use No need for you to be flamed, but you sound as though you are flaming others yourself. No one is saying they can't learn Fleksy, they just need guidance. We all learn in different ways and different paces. Keep this in mind because, blind or not, there will come something that you will have difficulty with and need others help. As for me, I'll be glad to give it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Krister Ekstrom Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use I am using the regular fleksy third party keyboard with no problems whatsoever, I repeat no problems whatsoever and i am totally blind and am using Voiceover. In fact i have stopped using the stock keyboard and am using Fleksy exclusively. As you can see, and i’ll probably get flamed for this, Fleksy is not inaccessible. There’s a learning curve involved, as with all other apps, and if one is willing to learn then the experience is rewarding. /Krister > 15 jan. 2016 kl. 01:39 skrev Alan Lemly <[email protected]>: > > Wayne, > > I agree entirely. I tried getting familiar with the Fleksy Keyboard > app and although I did make progress, I eventually decided that Fleksy > VO was easier and consistently accessible. I got tired of difficulties > in returning to the standard iOS keyboard from the Fleksy keyboard > when I ran into situations that input with the Fleksy keyboard wasn't > working right which seemed a bit too often. > > I have never figured out why the Fleksy developers pulled Fleksy VO > from the Apps Store. I can understand why they might not want to > support two apps but Fleksy VO has worked consistently for me in its > current iteration up through iOS 8.3. I expect it still works with iOS > 9.2 but I'm in no hurry to upgrade from iTunes 11.4 which will be > required to move up to iOS 9.x. I would think they could just make > Fleksy VO available in the Apps Store and not expend any resources on > it. Many apps in the Apps Store don't seem to be updated all that > frequently. But I suppose the Fleksy developers have their reasons. > > Alan Lemly > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Wayne Merritt > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Fleksy and a podcast or chat about how to use > > When using the regular Fleksy app , I had major issues in getting back > to the regular US keyboard. I know that you double tap on the globe or > emogy icon, but that for whatever reason never worked consistently for > me. I've deleted Fleksy from my phone and hope that someone creates an > equally easy third party keyboard for the blind to use, like Fleksy > but easier to use. I still have the separate Fleksy VO app on my phone > and will never delete it. I can write messages quickly and confidently > in that app. I understand their desire to have everything in one app, > but since the main Fleksy app has been giving blind folk lots of > trouble, I wish they would admit defeat and bring back a separate app > for the blind/low vision. OH well. > > Wayne > > On 1/14/16, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote: >> What exactly do you have problems with? >> Robin you asked if you had to be within the keyboard to swipe and >> click, > the >> answer is yes. >> Also you wondered if words did have to be repeated when swiping, and >> the answer is yes on that one too, although you can set that in the > preferences >> of the Fleksy app. There, you can also set the size of the keyboard. >> If > you >> think it's easier for you with a big keyboardd. 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