Hi,
I think it is interesting with all the viewpoints that come up. I guess though 
that i’ll never be able to fully grasp why someone skips over the internal 
keyboard for an external one. I for my part, would be totally screaming mad if 
for any reason my physical keyboard would break and i had to fall back on the 
internal one and if i couldn’t manage it. Don’t get me wrong here, please, but 
wouldn’t it be good to have something to fall back on just in case?
I can understand if someone wants to use another input method than the standard 
one for longish texts, like blogs and the like, i don’t say anything about 
that, but i myself am feeling more confident knowing i have many options to 
fall back on should one not work. Hope this didn’t come through too criticising 
or something, i just want to try to understand this.
/Krister

> 16 feb. 2016 kl. 18:04 skrev Rose Combs <[email protected]>:
> 
> Yes, will I have an iPad mini, the original 16 MB, WIFI only that I was given 
> by Tom after I showed him how to use the one we got for him.  It came with a 
> keyboard cover, but the keys seemed off to me, too small and no travel, made 
> so many errors with it that I gave up on using it.  
> Since I have been alone for the past 20 months I seldom use the iPad, did for 
> mail when my computer was down but could not when the internet went down last 
> fall, maybe I could have used the phone to connect it but I did not.  
>  
> Anyway, I tried to connect the Logitech keyboard I got for Tom but I am 
> missing something, it has not worked but I know it did on his mini and 
> iPhone, both of which have been passed on to other people.  Keyboard was new, 
> gave it to him four days before he passed for his birthday, he liked it and 
> it does have a great touch but I have not gotten it to connect, if there is a 
> key that needs to be pressed I have not found it, wish I had because for a 
> Bluetooth it has the best touch I have ever used.  Have Amazon Basics now, it 
> is okay, at least I can tell when it is on or off, just connected to my 
> phone.  
> My iPad mini seems to have super sensitive touch despite changing settings 
> which is one reason I don’t give it much of a workout these days, I would 
> sell it but it is a dinosaur these days, bought in late August 2013 after I 
> showed Tom how to use the one he bought to use at the hospital.  
> Best part is the speaker, for reading books, not bad, I seldom touch it, not 
> even sure if it is updated from 8.  
>  
>  
> Rose Combs
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Why do we want to use a physical keyboard?
>  
> Rose, I'm with you.  I have been using computers sense the days of Dos.  
> Before that, I learned to type in grade school and I don't 'wanna tell ya how 
> long ago that was!  I like dictation on my iPhone 5s, and it works great for 
> text messages, short notes, and from time to time, a personal log entry.  
> What I'm saying here is, my first choice is to type it.  A keyboard case 
> gives me all the options I need.
>  
> 
> Alan
>  
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Rose Combs <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> I use a Bluetooth keyboard because I have been typing for more than 50 years 
>> and am much faster with one, using the onscreen model I get to thinking 
>> ahead and make a mess unless it is just a very short message.  
>>  
>>  
>> Rose Combs
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>> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
>> memory!
>>  
>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On 
>> Behalf Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:58 AM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; 
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Why do we want to use a physical keyboard?
>>  
>> Your reasoning isn't flawed at all. I use a Bluetooth keyboard because I'm 
>> faster at it than using the iOS keyboard, and Fleksy often reverted to 
>> typing exactly where I touched, which means it was garbage being typed. So I 
>> deleted that, because having to restart voiceover whenever that happened, 
>> whih was often for me, was a real pain. Braille screen input, however 
>> amazing, means that I'd have to turn my device to landscape mode, type, 
>> correct any mistakes, twist the rotor, or do the "back" gesture, and find 
>> the send button or whatever. With a keyboard, I can just navigate, using the 
>> keyboard, to the place where I want to type, type, and if in messenger, 
>> messages, Kik, Whatsapp, and countless other apps, just press enter to send. 
>> If I'm in outlook Mobile, I'd press command+enter to automatically send a 
>> message. Other keyboard shortcuts like that work too, in other apps. Yes, I 
>> have to take two devices, but no, it's not that much worse than taking an 
>> iPhone and a charger, or an iPhone and a braille display, or a braille 
>> display and its chargers, or an iPhone and a purse.
>> 
>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
>> From Devin Prater
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 2:57 AM -0800, "Krister Ekstrom" 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> This is *not* critizism even though it might seem so. I merely want to test 
>> my opinion in a matter where i more or less have been accused of being wrong.
>> You see, i want those i tell and sometimes teach about the iDevices to know 
>> their device thoroughly so that they don’t get stuck somewhere if things 
>> happen and so that they themselves can make an informed choice about for 
>> example what input method to use and so i have said that if you want an 
>> iPhone you’ll have to learn and know about the virtual keyboard before you 
>> get to decide if you want to use it or not.
>> I for example am not using a physical bluetooth keyboard although i have a 
>> little cute one sitting around here. Now i’m exclusively using Fleksy for my 
>> typing needs, and sometimes when i’m in a hurry to make a calendar 
>> appointment for example i use Siri and then go in and edit the calendar 
>> entry afterwards but before i used Fleksy i used the stock iOs keyboard.
>> I have chosen to do this because i don’t want to carry many gadgets with me 
>> all the time, but those are my choices, so please tell me what in my opinion 
>> is wrong because i am apparently so dence i can’t understand it. What in my 
>> reasoning is flawed?
>> /Krister
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