Hi, I look at it this way. What portion of it is stock android?
Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, 16 June 2016 6:31 pm Subject: RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > > That's a bit like saying Toyota has much more market share than Mercedes. > Android may have more market share world wide because there are a lot of > low-end Android phones especially in countries like China, India, Indonesia > and other Asian, south American and African countries where most people can't > afford an iPhone or one of the high-end Android phones like a Samsung Galaxy. > The fact is that three quarters of the world's population is in these > countries and part of a socio-economic group which could never afford a phone > which costs more than $50 or $100 at the most. > However, if you look at how much money Apple makes from iPhones/iOS compared > to how much money Google makes from Android it's a very different story. > Google makes its money from advertising and Apple makes it from their > hardware and services like Apple Music and the iTunes Store. Apple is a > single manufacturer and they have a handful of phone models, Google licenses > Android to dozens of manufacturers and there are hundreds of models of > Android phones. Compare Apple with Samsung and their high-end phones which > are really the competition for the iPhone and Apple wins hands down. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Evan Reese > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:58 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > Last I heard, which was not very long ago, according to a recent issue of the > Economist, Android has over 80 percent of the smart phone market. So I would > say that Apple is getting serious competition already. > Evan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:07 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > I would claim that Apple is getting real competition from other smart phone > makers. I haven't checked the numbers lately, but Android in general and > Samsung in particular outsell IOS and i Phones. Even if Apple has let over > Samsung or is doing better in particular markets, I think Apple would be > crazy not to consider this serious competition. > > Note, I'm not saying Android or Samsung is better than IOS or Apple, but I > just don't think it's true that they aren't real competition for the iPhone.. > > On 16/06/16 01:42, Gary Petraccaro wrote: > > That will change when Apple starts getting real competition from other > > smartphone makers, or the blind start calling/writing the access > > people and requesting features such as what you want. If that doesn't > > do it, then Apple just has certain established attitudes toward their > > product and feels no reason to change them. One of those, the failure > > of Siri to open shazam or Google seems to me to be based on Apple's > > making a competitive product and not wanting it's operating system to > > give a leg up to a product not Apple's own. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:19 PM > > *Subject:* RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Well, isn't that nice of Apple. They make such a big deal of how > > they are opening up the API's for all of these iOS features to > > developers but they conveniently forget to mention that really they > > don't. As much as I like my iphone and what Apple is doing in many > > areas, it is very annoying that they are so backwards in other ways. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sieghard > > > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > > *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Mosen > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 PM > > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > > > Hi Sieghard, sad to say, Siri won't be opening your Audible book any > > time soon. For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds > > of application: ride booking, messaging , Photo Search, payments, > > Calling, and Workouts. > > > > So, Siri won't be able to open a book in Voice Dream, Bard, or any > > other third-party book app. It won't be able to play music for you > > on Spotify or Pandora. It won't be able to play the most recent > > episode of a podcast using third-party podcast apps. I have no idea > > why Apple is so tone deaf to how far it is lagging behind in this > > space, but what they're coming out with is only going to improve the > > situation slightly. > > > > Jonathan Mosen > > > > Mosen Consulting > > > > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > > > > http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org> > > > > On 15/06/2016, at 6:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca > > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > > > Hi Devin, > > > > Yes, some of it sounds very nice, but as others have pointed > > out, there isn't much that is really groundbreaking. > > Collaboration in documents is something Microsoft has been > > offering for years and it is high time Apple opened up their > > API's to developers especially the one for SIRI. They pointed > > out that SIRI has been around for 5 years now and if you really > > think about it SIRI now is not a lot better than it was 5 years > > ago. Yes, it's a bit faster with dictation and can pull > > information from a few more sources, but why is it still not > > possible to say "Call Kevin from Bigrock Sports" just to give an > > example of one of my contacts where I have at least 3 or 4 > > Kevins in my contacts who all work for different companies. I > > can't even create a contact where I just enter a company name in > > the company name field and a single phone number and say, for > > example, "Call Bigrock Sports". I have to also put the company > > name in the last name field to do this. I should be able to say > > "Show me all my contacts who work at Bigrock Sports" or I should > > be able to tell SIRI to "Turn Voiceover Hints On or Off", but > > all of these things SIRI can't do. Another example: I can tell > > SIRI to "Remind me about my dentist appointment on Friday at 3 > > PM", but if I say "Remind me about my 3 PM dentist appointment > > on Friday at 2 PM" it will say it will remind me and when I > > check what SIRI created I see it created the reminder for 3 PM > > whereas I want to be reminded at 2 PM that my appointment is at > > 3 PM. There is a complicated way to say it so it does what I > > want, but I should be able to say it anyway I like or even in > > two parts like "Remind me about my dentist appointment at 3 PM > > on Friday" and when SIRI says it will I should be able to bring > > it up again and say "Start reminding me once an hour starting at > > 11 AM and it should understand that I want a reminder at 11 AM, > > Noon, 1 PM and 2 PM and maybe by its own intelligence SIRI > > should remind me again 15 minutes before if it detects my iPhone > > is not moving. This is true artificial intelligence, it already > > exists, the iPhone has the processing power to do it and so do > > Apple's servers. > > I can't say how much I look forward to being finally able to say > > "Play the Audible book I am currently listening to" or, if I > > have not started one but have a bunch downloaded I hope I can > > say "Play Night Ranger in audible" (just one example of a book > > by Alex Berentson I just finished). > > Another basic example of something super simple SIRI can't do. > > Try and ask SIRI to "Start the Stop Watch". SIRI will tell you > > "Sorry, I can't help you with the stop watch". Huh, really, it > > can set a timer, an alarm, it can create calendar events and > > reminders but it can't start the stop watch? Why? > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater > > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > > > Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets > > integrated into predictive text, so she can suggest better > > options there, like I'm at (suggests input of location into the > > text)" and stuff like that. Siri is open to developers, so apps > > can allow Siri to use their functionality from anywhere. Apps > > can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending of money > > right from messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window > > app. People can collaborate with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple > > watch. Just amazing stuff! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce > > <kellyt...@gmail.com <mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and > > play it on a > > stand alone device. Apple announced incremental > > improvements, not > > breakthrough technology. Even Facebook with its calling > > feature in > > the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something new. > > Some of > > Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to be > > believed. The > > photos app will now be able to recognize peple and places. > > > > Kelly > > > > > > On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone > > <viphone@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was under the impression that the Apple event was > > yesterday. I > > cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was > > yesterday, how come > > the silence? Was it so unremarkable? 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