Hi,
Up until last year or so, Android was quite far behind in accessibility so
Apple didn’t worry too much. With Android moving so quickly in all aspects of
smart phone technology, if I was at the management level at Apple, I would
start scratching my chin and trying to get my mind in gear although very late
in the game, to come up with something that would keep me on top. Right now,
I would say that Apple has been very slow at reacting to progress and will not
stay on top with that attitude.
We, in the world of people with disabilities have been so wowed with Apple
being the first to give us accessibility out of the box, have been so
appreciative of what was done that we have been forgetting about pushing
forward and demanding more. We cannot continue to count on organizations
representing people with disabilities to do it all. It is our responsibility
as individuals to write to the accessibility department and insist to be heard.
Just because we have made gains in the past several years is not a reason to
sit there and complain within this list or any other and never get our concerns
pushed to the top.
In my many, many, years as a blind person, I did learn that gains are only very
temporary unless we keep fighting. It’s a never ending battle.
Ron & Danvers
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
That will change when Apple starts getting real competition from other
smartphone makers, or the blind start calling/writing the access people and
requesting features such as what you want. If that doesn't do it, then Apple
just has certain established attitudes toward their product and feels no reason
to change them. One of those, the failure of Siri to open shazam or Google
seems to me to be based on Apple's making a competitive product and not wanting
it's operating system to give a leg up to a product not Apple's own.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
Hi Jonathan,
Well, isn’t that nice of Apple. They make such a big deal of how they are
opening up the API’s for all of these iOS features to developers but they
conveniently forget to mention that really they don’t. As much as I like my
iphone and what Apple is doing in many areas, it is very annoying that they are
so backwards in other ways.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
Hi Sieghard, sad to say, Siri won't be opening your Audible book any time soon.
For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds of application: ride
booking, messaging , Photo Search, payments, Calling, and Workouts.
So, Siri won't be able to open a book in Voice Dream, Bard, or any other
third-party book app. It won't be able to play music for you on Spotify or
Pandora. It won't be able to play the most recent episode of a podcast using
third-party podcast apps. I have no idea why Apple is so tone deaf to how far
it is lagging behind in this space, but what they're coming out with is only
going to improve the situation slightly.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 15/06/2016, at 6:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Hi Devin,
Yes, some of it sounds very nice, but as others have pointed out, there isn't
much that is really groundbreaking. Collaboration in documents is something
Microsoft has been offering for years and it is high time Apple opened up their
API's to developers especially the one for SIRI. They pointed out that SIRI has
been around for 5 years now and if you really think about it SIRI now is not a
lot better than it was 5 years ago. Yes, it's a bit faster with dictation and
can pull information from a few more sources, but why is it still not possible
to say "Call Kevin from Bigrock Sports" just to give an example of one of my
contacts where I have at least 3 or 4 Kevins in my contacts who all work for
different companies. I can't even create a contact where I just enter a company
name in the company name field and a single phone number and say, for example,
"Call Bigrock Sports". I have to also put the company name in the last name
field to do this. I should be able to say "Show me all my contacts who work at
Bigrock Sports" or I should be able to tell SIRI to "Turn Voiceover Hints On or
Off", but all of these things SIRI can't do. Another example: I can tell SIRI
to "Remind me about my dentist appointment on Friday at 3 PM", but if I say
"Remind me about my 3 PM dentist appointment on Friday at 2 PM" it will say it
will remind me and when I check what SIRI created I see it created the reminder
for 3 PM whereas I want to be reminded at 2 PM that my appointment is at 3 PM.
There is a complicated way to say it so it does what I want, but I should be
able to say it anyway I like or even in two parts like "Remind me about my
dentist appointment at 3 PM on Friday" and when SIRI says it will I should be
able to bring it up again and say "Start reminding me once an hour starting at
11 AM and it should understand that I want a reminder at 11 AM, Noon, 1 PM and
2 PM and maybe by its own intelligence SIRI should remind me again 15 minutes
before if it detects my iPhone is not moving. This is true artificial
intelligence, it already exists, the iPhone has the processing power to do it
and so do Apple's servers.
I can't say how much I look forward to being finally able to say "Play the
Audible book I am currently listening to" or, if I have not started one but
have a bunch downloaded I hope I can say "Play Night Ranger in audible" (just
one example of a book by Alex Berentson I just finished).
Another basic example of something super simple SIRI can't do. Try and ask SIRI
to "Start the Stop Watch". SIRI will tell you "Sorry, I can't help you with the
stop watch". Huh, really, it can set a timer, an alarm, it can create calendar
events and reminders but it can't start the stop watch? Why?
Best regards,
Sieghard
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday?
Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets integrated into
predictive text, so she can suggest better options there, like I'm at (suggests
input of location into the text)" and stuff like that. Siri is open to
developers, so apps can allow Siri to use their functionality from anywhere.
Apps can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending of money right from
messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window app. People can collaborate
with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple watch. Just amazing stuff!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and play it on a
stand alone device. Apple announced incremental improvements, not
breakthrough technology. Even Facebook with its calling feature in
the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something new. Some of
Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to be believed. The
photos app will now be able to recognize peple and places.
Kelly
On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Hi,
I was under the impression that the Apple event was yesterday. I
cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was yesterday, how come
the silence? Was it so unremarkable? Or do I have the wrong week?
Thanks, Sandy.
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