Your use case must be different from mine. At this point, I can't imagine 
moving from an iPhone to android, although I have both. If I had to pick one, 
it would be the iPhone, for the mail app, the ease of doing web reading, and my 
favorite RSS news reader which I use a lot, and for which I have found no 
equivalent on android. Plus voice dream reader. It's so much better on the 
iPhone then it is on android. I read a lot of books, and book share is great. 
And you can't beat voice dream reader, although it has had some pick ups lately 
that I have not been thrilled with. Still, for my use case, iOS is still it. I 
enjoy messing around with android. But I'm not ready to make a move to android 
as my primary device for the above reasons.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have a Samsung S7 Active, and I didn't have any trouble installing Talk 
> Back or using it. The S7 replaced my iPhone as my every day device, and it 
> was Jonathan Mosen's article that convinced me to make the switch.
> 
>> On 31/07/16 16:39, Mary Otten wrote:
>> I don't own a Samsung device, but I know there are plenty of people who
>> have installed talkback on the S7, so I know it's possible. I'm sorry
>> you weren't able to do that. Many people find it satisfactory. Depends
>> on your use case. That's an expensive device. For that kind of money, I
>> would just assume have an iPhone.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Gordan Radić <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Right.
>>> 
>>> I was testing Samsung Galaxy S7 for two weeks and I wasn't satisfied
>>> with accessibility solutions. As you probably know, Samsung flagship
>>> models has its own screen reader called Voice Assistant and in some
>>> situations it works worse than the Google Talkback on other phones. I
>>> wasn't able to install Talkback on S7, probably because it is disabled
>>> somewhere so I can't tell how it works on that device.
>>> 
>>> I wrote a detailed reviewon it for my website but it is unfortunately
>>> in my own language so I'll just sumarize the conclusion part.
>>> 
>>> From sighted point of view comparing Galaxy S7 and iPhone 6S is just
>>> as comparing Mercedes and BMW.
>>> 
>>> From partially sighted corner S7 has some advantages since there are
>>> tones of look and feel customizations, zooming accessibility options
>>> and of course, a gallery of visual themes from the Gallaxy Store.
>>> 
>>> But, talking from the blind perspective, Samsung and Google have a lot
>>> to learn about accessibility from Apple.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Gordan Radić* <mailto://[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> <nemoviz_animated.gif> <http://www.nemoviz.org>
>>> 
>>> <email.png> <mailto://[email protected]>     <facebook.png>
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz>    <twitter.png>
>>> <http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014>
>>> 
>>> 31.7.2016. u 20:22, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
>>>> It's definitely a lot better than it used to be. Reading Jonathan's blog 
>>>> article would be a good place to start in my opinion. It is hard to find 
>>>> truly unbiased people, because everybody has a bias. They have their own 
>>>> use cases. They have things that are more important to them. I still say, 
>>>> if you want to buy a device and just use it without messing with it, iOS 
>>>> still has a definite advantage. But android accessibility has made lots of 
>>>> strides, less so if you need braille  support and are going to be relying 
>>>> on braille back. On the other hand, the cost of Apple products is quite 
>>>> high and out of the reach of many people. So the fact that android 
>>>> accessibility is improving, and the fact that you can get a good android 
>>>> device for less than the cost of a comparable iPhone is a good thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to see 
>>>>> how much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it’s a sinn to think this 
>>>>> way, for thou shalt not have any other operating systems besides iOs, 
>>>>> still i want to know how good it is before i totally bash it.:-) It’s 
>>>>> good to know a products strengths and weeknesses right?
>>>>> /Krister
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting accessibility 
>>>>>> aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to replace anything.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Krister Ekstrom  <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think 
>>>>>> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have 
>>>>>>> the latest versions and not all can support them which means that we 
>>>>>>> have even more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't 
>>>>>>> know because they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not 
>>>>>>> know a thing about what they sell and definitely no blindness specific 
>>>>>>> stuff. At least that's the way in Sweden now.
>>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my 
>>>>>>>> ipad mini?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the 
>>>>>>>> ipad than on a android device?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Kevin Chao <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think 
>>>>>>>> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches 
>>>>>>>> iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas.
>>>>>>>> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal  and had 
>>>>>>>> a lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try 
>>>>>>>> modern Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be 
>>>>>>>> fair it is difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello there Christopher,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android 
>>>>>>>>> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I 
>>>>>>>>> tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I 
>>>>>>>>> had an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as 
>>>>>>>>> well. At one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I 
>>>>>>>>> never like that thing. I know some people love android products, and 
>>>>>>>>> that is there right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I 
>>>>>>>>> know my iPhone, and other Apple products, can have their limitations. 
>>>>>>>>> But I can live with those limitations. But thank you again for giving 
>>>>>>>>> me your thoughts on this matter. I do appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of 
>>>>>>>>>> which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen 
>>>>>>>>>> reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't 
>>>>>>>>>> very accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his 
>>>>>>>>>> experience with an Android phone, and based on that article, and 
>>>>>>>>>> some other reasons, I got a Samsung S7 Active to go along with my 
>>>>>>>>>> Nexus 7 tablet. The iPhone definitely has it's strengths, but 
>>>>>>>>>> depending on what you do with the phone, an Android phone or tablet 
>>>>>>>>>> is quite accessible.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all.
>>>>>>>>>>> I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more 
>>>>>>>>>>> memory on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>> know if I will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking 
>>>>>>>>>>> to the lady, she told me that they were running a great promotion 
>>>>>>>>>>> on tablets. I told her then I would blind, and that I did not want 
>>>>>>>>>>> an android tablet because I didn't feel they were very accessible.
>>>>>>>>>>> So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could 
>>>>>>>>>>> offer me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>> know much about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation 
>>>>>>>>>>> was. She told me the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her 
>>>>>>>>>>> that's what I wanted. I know I will be paying on it for a while, 
>>>>>>>>>>> but the payments were small. So I decided to go with the 64 gig 
>>>>>>>>>>> model. I thought that would give me plenty of space to do whatever 
>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to do. I got it in silver.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! 
>>>>>>>>>>> No I don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision 
>>>>>>>>>>> as to what kind of device to get, or not to get.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I 
>>>>>>>>>>> said, I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate 
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a great day!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Terri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods.  I got 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both of my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago from Walmart.  I have also seen used or refurbished 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPods at places like Best Buy and Amazon.  Just go to their site 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and do a search for Refurbished iPod and see what comes up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help free up some space on your phone.  Dropbox is a great 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> storage solution when you do not have a lot of space on your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,Sieghard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money to put in to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refurbished one. That was supposed to be, they do not have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refurbished ones. I just want to be able to enjoy my shows and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff, without having a lot of distractions. But then when I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry I'm not getting my texts or things of that nature, I get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned and I am missing important things. Sometimes I am, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes I'm not. I wish I had purchased an iPhone with more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> memory. But I can't upgrade for a while now. Mine only has 16 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gigs, but it looks more like I only have about 11 gigs every 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level. I think the last time I looked I had a little over five 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gigs of space. So that is hard to work with. I would like to put 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audiobooks, and some music, and some other stuff on my phone. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I haven't used iTunes in a long time, and I am not fond of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know I am not the only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one that feels this way. So maybe I will use dropbox after all, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate you and the list 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this stuff said. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. Maybe I could 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take some applications off of it that I really don't use, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that might give me more space. I don't know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS 10 was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPod sixth generation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation, or the sixth generation. So I did this. When I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't find anything, I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very nice lady who told me that they had not had any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refurbished models for at least a couple of months now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would support iOS 10. She said that it would.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's also the chance that when the new devices come out 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this fal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by, certain new features may not be available. I would also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add features which your hardeware does not support, then you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I could not get since I was not running the most recent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of ios.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could always run the version you had currently on your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be supported by ios 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if having the most recent version of the app is important 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get an iPod 6.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left. I know I could put it on disturb also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to miss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have decided to go with this generation iPod.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it got to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a point where I could not do my update for my application. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sloppy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes, when using dictation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TerriSent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notifications while you listen to a book or music just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an iPhone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened when I bought my 6S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use one device instead of two which essentially do the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding some of the older devices will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run Ios 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> the new 32 gig 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch 6th gen is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling for $242. There are used models listing for as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little as $174.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should really, really try to get the newer 6th 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to newer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time you own this device--you will regret it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> link:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon.com <http://amazon.com>: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (6th Generation):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW <https://is.gd/XjWxoW>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and save up money to get the six generation model, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afford one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for now, I don't really want to wait on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my phone, as well as dropbox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, once I get it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your help. If you have any more advice, or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions, I would really appreciate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good night!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can choose in iTunes to not have anything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically sync
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the iPod.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have to enable mail on the touch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saving up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch 6th generation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treating them as books through iTunes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio described movies will show up in the video app if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring them with iTunes.  Or, are these just mp3 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind Mice or somewhere?  If just mp3 files, again, Voice 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your device
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through DropBox rather than going through the pains of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a device dedicated to listening to music and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books.  I find I do other things with it, but those are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the main two things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation. I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afford it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, I don't think I need all those features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So here are some questions I have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, and I really do not want it in both places.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add these to the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once I add something, is it easy to remove?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I want these to stay on my phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music from my Bluetooth speaker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, some notices still come through. Even with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dislike that program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>> And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have 
>>>>>>> the latest versions and not all can support them which means that we 
>>>>>>> have even more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't 
>>>>>>> know because they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not 
>>>>>>> know a thing about what they sell and definitely no blindness specific 
>>>>>>> stuff. At least that's the way in Sweden now.
>>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my 
>>>>>>> ipad mini?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the 
>>>>>>> ipad than on a android device?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Kevin Chao
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think 
>>>>>>> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches 
>>>>>>> iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas.
>>>>>>> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal  and had 
>>>>>>> a lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try 
>>>>>>> modern Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair 
>>>>>>> it is difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello there Christopher,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android 
>>>>>>> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I 
>>>>>>> tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had 
>>>>>>> an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At 
>>>>>>> one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like 
>>>>>>> that thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there 
>>>>>>> right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, 
>>>>>>> and other Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live 
>>>>>>> with those limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts 
>>>>>>> on this matter. I do appreciate it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of 
>>>>>>>> which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen 
>>>>>>>> reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very 
>>>>>>>> accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his 
>>>>>>>> experience with an Android phone, and based on that article, and some 
>>>>>>>> other reasons, I got a Samsung S7 Active to go along with my Nexus 7 
>>>>>>>> tablet. The iPhone definitely has it's strengths, but depending on 
>>>>>>>> what you do with the phone, an Android phone or tablet is quite 
>>>>>>>> accessible.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all.
>>>>>>>>> I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more 
>>>>>>>>> memory on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't 
>>>>>>>>> know if I will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking 
>>>>>>>>> to the lady, she told me that they were running a great promotion on 
>>>>>>>>> tablets. I told her then I would blind, and that I did not want an 
>>>>>>>>> android tablet because I didn't feel they were very accessible.
>>>>>>>>> So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could 
>>>>>>>>> offer me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't know 
>>>>>>>>> much about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation was. She 
>>>>>>>>> told me the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her that's what I 
>>>>>>>>> wanted. I know I will be paying on it for a while, but the payments 
>>>>>>>>> were small. So I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I thought that 
>>>>>>>>> would give me plenty of space to do whatever I wanted to do. I got it 
>>>>>>>>> in silver.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! No 
>>>>>>>>> I don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision as 
>>>>>>>>> to what kind of device to get, or not to get.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I 
>>>>>>>>> said, I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a great day!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Terri,
>>>>>>>>>>> Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods.  I got both 
>>>>>>>>>>> of my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years ago 
>>>>>>>>>>> from Walmart.  I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at places 
>>>>>>>>>>> like Best Buy and Amazon.  Just go to their site and do a search 
>>>>>>>>>>> for Refurbished iPod and see what comes up.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to help 
>>>>>>>>>>> free up some space on your phone.  Dropbox is a great storage 
>>>>>>>>>>> solution when you do not have a lot of space on your phone.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,Sieghard
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had 
>>>>>>>>>>>> given me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, and I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the money to put 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have refurbished one. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> That was supposed to be, they do not have refurbished ones. I just 
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be able to enjoy my shows and stuff, without having a lot 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of distractions. But then when I worry I'm not getting my texts or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> things of that nature, I get concerned and I am missing important 
>>>>>>>>>>>> things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm not. I wish I had 
>>>>>>>>>>>> purchased an iPhone with more memory. But I can't upgrade for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> while now. Mine only has 16 gigs, but it looks more like I only 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have about 11 gigs every level. I think the last time I looked I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> had a little over five gigs of space. So that is hard to work 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with. I would like to put audiobooks, and some music, and some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> other stuff on my phone. But I haven't used iTunes in a long time, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I am not fond of it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not the only one that feels this way. So maybe I will use 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox after all, at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you and the list listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff said.. I guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I could take some applications off of it that I really don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> use, and that might give me more space. I don't know.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod sixth generation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything, I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who told me that they had not had any refurbished models for at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least a couple of months now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support iOS 10. She said that it would.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's also the chance that when the new devices come out this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as time 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by, certain new features may not be available. I would also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add features which your hardeware does not support, then you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I could not get since I was not running the most recent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of ios.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could always run the version you had currently on your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be supported by ios 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if having the most recent version of the app is important to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get an iPod 6.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and listen 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left. I know I could put it on disturb also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to miss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is why 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have decided to go with this generation iPod.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is fine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a point where I could not do my update for my application. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sloppy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes, when using dictation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TerriSent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notifications while you listen to a book or music just bring 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an iPhone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music app 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my iPod 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Touch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same happened 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 6S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use one device instead of two which essentially do the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding some of the older devices will be able 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run Ios 10.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> the new 32 gig 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch 6th gen is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling for $242. There are used models listing for as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little as $174.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to transfer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should really, really try to get the newer 6th generation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time you own this device--you will regret it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> link:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon.com <http://amazon.com>: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (6th Generation):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and save up money to get the six generation model, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afford one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for now, I don't really want to wait on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. That 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, as well as dropbox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these programs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, once I get it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your help. If you have any more advice, or suggestions, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would really appreciate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good night!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can choose in iTunes to not have anything automatically 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sync
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the iPod.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have to enable mail on the touch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saving up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch 6th generation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treating them as books through iTunes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio described movies will show up in the video app if you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring them with iTunes.  Or, are these just mp3 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind Mice or somewhere?  If just mp3 files, again, Voice 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through DropBox rather than going through the pains of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a device dedicated to listening to music and reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books.  I find I do other things with it, but those are the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main two things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Questions regarding the IPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th generation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't afford 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, I don't think I need all those features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So here are some questions I have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, and I really do not want it in both places.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add these to the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once I add something, is it easy to remove?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I want these to stay on my phone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a Spotify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music from my Bluetooth speaker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I mute 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, some notices still come through. Even with the screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dislike that program.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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