I'm not sure it's true to say that no one was asking for a thinner
phone. Android hand sets advertise their thinness, so I assume Apple was
reacting to that competition.

On 13/09/12 12:35, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> It's 8 signal Pins + 1 ground, 9 in total. As far as Apple doing things
> their way, that has always been their way, they never ask and Steve Jobbs
> actually stated specifically that he doesn't put together user groups or
> does surveys to find out what people want since people don't know what they
> want until Apple tells them what they want.
> 
> Anyhow, I can't see this adapter not being available all over the Internet
> and I would be surprised if Apple could legally block some outfit in China
> to make this thing and sell it on monoprice.com or similar sites for 5 bucks
> or at least for something a lot less than $30 or $35. One interesting
> titbit, in Europe, at least in EU countries, the iPhone is always sold with
> a 30-Pin to USB Micro adapter since somehow they have a law that says it has
> to be so.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Marc Rocheleau
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
> 
> Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight
> pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they
> made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with
> a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll
> be apple's standard connection "for many years to come" according to them.
> By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had
> to do it sooner or later.
> 
> What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in
> Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't
> allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time
> being, if ever.
> 
> On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple
> but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking
> for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit
> things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which
> would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the
> phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen.
> 
> -Marc
> 
> 
> On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> Hello List,
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional 
>> iPhone
>> 5
>> changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. 
>> This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and 
>> iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new 
>> iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think 
>> this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think 
>> especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose 
>> Soundlink or similar this "improvement" is not so cool. I would 
>> consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the 
>> much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature 
>> is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which 
>> way around you stick it in, it fits either way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where 
>> the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but 
>> apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) 
>> allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so 
>> much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature 
>> as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are 
>> recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast 
>> app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps 
>> visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I 
>> also just looked on the apple.com website under "iPhone" and "Built In 
>> Apps" and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the 
>> feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release 
>> since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than 
>> favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more 
>> and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
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