Todd,

The reason I suggested TapTapSee, is that it is made by the same people who 
make CamFind, but it doesn't clutter the screen with ads for where you can buy 
things. Also, be sure you find the button when you install a camera app that 
asks for permission to use the camera, otherwise they won't work at all. Here 
is the link to TapTapSee - Blind & Visually Impaired Camera by CamFind Inc.
https://appsto.re/us/mXw1H.i


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On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:04 AM, Paul Richard McGann 
<rkmcg...@comcast.net<mailto:rkmcg...@comcast.net>> wrote:

sieghard and richard,

very understanding. that is how I was given fro blind tech trainer who 
expalined to me. somehow, he forgot about multi-color like plaid, and desig. no 
problem. sieghard, yes, I deid in good light. wink!

richard, blind tech trainer said that digital eye is good for heairng blind who 
rely on voce, not brialle. so that is why I was advised not to use digital eye 
as well as blind square as they are mostly work in voice. we eed to depend on 
brialle display. wink1 thank you1

suincerely,
rich


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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: color id app


I have to mostly agree with Sieghard on this one.
Digit-Eyes sells labels that can be sown into clothes and will last through 
dozens of washing and drying cycles.
If you don't want to go to that extent, try TapTapSee. I am hoping the output 
stays on the screen long enough to use with a braille display. Sieghard is 
right, that the iPhone is not very good at color identification, but TapTapSee 
will at least identify patterns and if the light is good, at least come close 
on the color.
I've used it fairly successfully with shirts with a wide variety of patterns 
and colors and it is probably 75% accurate with color in mediocre lighting and 
gets better in good lighting.
But, you will always want sighted confirmation or good labels like Sieghard 
suggested for any time that being well dressed is important. If it is a casual 
event, and exact matching isn't necessary, with practice TapTapSee can do OK. 
Plus it is free.
HTH,
Richard


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On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Rich and Todd,

Unfortunately iPhone apps for colour identification are all very problematic 
and inaccurate. The problem is that any results greatly depend on what light 
you are in, whether it is daylight or artificial light, direct or indirect 
light and on and on. Dedicated talking colour identifiers like the Colorino  
have an internal light source, you push the opening right up against what you 
want to identify and because all other light from the outside is cut off the 
results are much more accurate and consistent. I know that a talking colour 
identifier may be of very limited use to somebody who is hard of hearing and 
probably it is useless for the DeafBlind, but unfortunately all apps are 
equally bad at given good results. All in all it is probably easier if you tag 
your clothing with washable barcodes and code the barcodes with information as 
to what sort of material and colour the clothing is, then use an app like 
Digit-Eyes to read these labels since I am quite sure this would also work with 
a braille display.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: color id app

Rich,

I noticed the same thing as you said below months ago after downloading that 
Color ID app.  I can tell by the way it behaves, not from VO, but from what the 
Braille Sense U2 Mini Braille display said in Braille.

If you or I moved the iPhone a little bit, it will make the camera see 
something where the color is still the same but makes the camera think 
differently.

I have not used the app for a long time now.  It needs some improvements.

My U2 Mini is muted so Braille is the only means.

Todd

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: color id app

dear sir,

I am brialle user. okay!

I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing.

close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors.

have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around.

sincerely,
rich

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