Glad to help as always.
I only have access to a braille display when I bring one home from work.
However, I’m hoping to have one of my own soon with the new Orbit 20 coming out 
from American Printing House  and Orbit Research.

Later,
Richard

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Braille commands for deleting app

Hi Richard,

Thanks for adding to this, I was pretty sure this could be relatively easily 
done with just braille and via a braille display without much touching of the 
screen since there are basically only 3 gestures involved, swiping left/right, 
swiping up/down and double tapping.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 9:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app


You may want to read step 3 again.
I said to use cord-dot6 again to move to where it shows "activate default" 
which is what the Apple label says.
Like I said, I turned speech off and was going by only what the braille display 
showed.
Richard

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On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Richard,

I think the "Activate" option which in fact should be "Delete" is not the 
default. If it were and you were to double tap immediately after double tapping 
on Arrange Apps without flicking up or down then the response should be the 
prompt to delete the app, but the response is to Move he app so the default is 
Move and not Activate/Delete and that is my story and I'm sticking to it *smile*

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:41 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Braille commands for deleting app

Todd and all,

I have my Braille Edge connected to my iPhone.  The commands are the same for 
all HIMS braille displays, so it is the same as your Braille Sense Mini.
I turned off speech so I am only going by what the display says.
The steps are:
1.  Use cord-dot4 or dot 1 to get to  the app you want to delete.
2.  Press cord-dot6.  When it shows "arrange apps" press cord-dots 3,6.
3.  Press cord-dot6 again so it shows "activate default."  Press cord-dots3,6.
4.  It will say "delete app" at that point, hit cord-dot6 until you get to the 
delete button and press cord-dots3,6.

Now, this is where Apple should make two changes.
When you are "arranging apps" and it shows "activate default" that should show 
"delete default" since that is now the default action.
Also, to get out of edit mode, you have to press the physical home button on 
the phone.  If you press cord-h it will exit terminal mode and your display 
won't be connected to your braille display.

I hope this is helpful.

Richard



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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:03 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app

to all,

the quote is blindness separates us form things and deafness separates us form 
people.

blind gain wonderful things to have communication than deaf do. deaf is more 
disabled than blind due to communication issues. sometimes apple staff don't 
realize this. there are some issues apple staff don't guarantee by not dealing 
with braille display users. they think what they belive, but they don't 
realize. there are some issues that brialle users have.

todd, go to settings, then go to genreal, then go to storage and then there is 
something that yo can look and enter app, then go down and find the word 
"delete" and then it asks yo if yo are sure and you say yes and then app is 
gone.

ssincerely,
rich


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Patkus
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:08 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Braille commands for deleting app

Dani,

Actually, there is really no way to do that!

Apple Inc. lacks this in a large way!

How can  person who is profoundly deaf and totally blind see what the screen is 
showing or see where to find on the screen!

Think about it.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:57 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app

Todd,
You have a Braille display from Hims--I see your mail on theHims Notetaker 
list. I have a BrailleEdge. The process for deleting apps should be similar

You can't do it just using the keyboard on the Braille display. You've got to 
use a combination of the keyboard and VO gestures. But there should be Braille 
feedback of everything VO says.

1) Navigate to the app you want to delete using the Dot1/4 with spacebar.
When you get to the app
2) One-finger double-tap and hold on the app. VO should say, and Braille should 
show"Moving [app name]."
3) Lift your finger and double-tap. You'll get a message asking whether you 
want to delete the app. Navigate to the Delete button and double-tap it.
(You can use your finger or the cursor routing button
here.)
4) Hit your Home button to get out of app editing mode.

HTH,
Dani





.



On 11/18/16, Todd Patkus <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
To all:



At this time, I know there is no way for a strong Braille user to
delete apps from his iOS.  No problem for hearing-blind who are speech
users.
That
is not fair.



We Braille users have every right just as the blind do.



Who may be able to tell me how to kill (delete) any unwanted apps?



A Braille Sense U2 Mini is what I have here, so make sure you have the
right commands for that task.



Thank you.



Todd

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