richard and sieghard, both of you could be correct for whatever you go through experience.
richard, I let you know that sometimes some commands of rotor bars don’t always appear as some could be possible bugs. some of us do have what you have and some of us do have with sieghard has. todd doesn’t have what you have or doesn’t have what sieghard has. some iphones don’t always work right. like human beings nothing is perfect. and eveyrone always expect comuter being perfect. sheesh1 richard, when I tried to make copy form email to transfer to text message, apple staff give step-by-step, and I did everything, but they are missing as they don’t use brialle display and thye n’t try to lok over and find out as the would realize that they are missing. sometimes it works fine for me and sometimes they don’t work on others. sometimes omething works on others whiel someonthing doesn’t work on me. we have sifferent settings. just like fingerprints as we are not the same. wink1 sincerely, rich From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app You may want to read step 3 again. I said to use cord-dot6 again to move to where it shows "activate default" which is what the Apple label says. Like I said, I turned speech off and was going by only what the braille display showed. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Richard, I think the "Activate" option which in fact should be "Delete" is not the default. If it were and you were to double tap immediately after double tapping on Arrange Apps without flicking up or down then the response should be the prompt to delete the app, but the response is to Move he app so the default is Move and not Activate/Delete and that is my story and I'm sticking to it *smile* Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Braille commands for deleting app Todd and all, I have my Braille Edge connected to my iPhone. The commands are the same for all HIMS braille displays, so it is the same as your Braille Sense Mini. I turned off speech so I am only going by what the display says. The steps are: 1. Use cord-dot4 or dot 1 to get to the app you want to delete. 2. Press cord-dot6. When it shows "arrange apps" press cord-dots 3,6. 3. Press cord-dot6 again so it shows "activate default." Press cord-dots3,6. 4. It will say "delete app" at that point, hit cord-dot6 until you get to the delete button and press cord-dots3,6. Now, this is where Apple should make two changes. When you are "arranging apps" and it shows "activate default" that should show "delete default" since that is now the default action. Also, to get out of edit mode, you have to press the physical home button on the phone. If you press cord-h it will exit terminal mode and your display won't be connected to your braille display. I hope this is helpful. Richard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Richard McGann Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app to all, the quote is blindness separates us form things and deafness separates us form people. blind gain wonderful things to have communication than deaf do. deaf is more disabled than blind due to communication issues. sometimes apple staff don't realize this. there are some issues apple staff don't guarantee by not dealing with braille display users. they think what they belive, but they don't realize. there are some issues that brialle users have. todd, go to settings, then go to genreal, then go to storage and then there is something that yo can look and enter app, then go down and find the word "delete" and then it asks yo if yo are sure and you say yes and then app is gone. ssincerely, rich -----Original Message----- From: Todd Patkus Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Braille commands for deleting app Dani, Actually, there is really no way to do that! Apple Inc. lacks this in a large way! How can person who is profoundly deaf and totally blind see what the screen is showing or see where to find on the screen! Think about it. Todd -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dani Pagador Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app Todd, You have a Braille display from Hims--I see your mail on theHims Notetaker list. I have a BrailleEdge. The process for deleting apps should be similar You can't do it just using the keyboard on the Braille display. You've got to use a combination of the keyboard and VO gestures. But there should be Braille feedback of everything VO says. 1) Navigate to the app you want to delete using the Dot1/4 with spacebar. When you get to the app 2) One-finger double-tap and hold on the app. VO should say, and Braille should show"Moving [app name]." 3) Lift your finger and double-tap. You'll get a message asking whether you want to delete the app. Navigate to the Delete button and double-tap it. (You can use your finger or the cursor routing button here.) 4) Hit your Home button to get out of app editing mode. HTH, Dani . On 11/18/16, Todd Patkus <[email protected]> wrote: To all: At this time, I know there is no way for a strong Braille user to delete apps from his iOS. No problem for hearing-blind who are speech users. That is not fair. We Braille users have every right just as the blind do. Who may be able to tell me how to kill (delete) any unwanted apps? A Braille Sense U2 Mini is what I have here, so make sure you have the right commands for that task. Thank you. Todd -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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