Hi Todd, I know what I’m thinking Todd. I’m not sure if you are clear about your thoughts, however. You state opinions, and that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to them, regardless of their validity. Many here have tried to inform you, help you and correct your misconceptions, but you turn around and react as if you have been insulted or attacked. I am a very happy Braille user with a Braille Edge 40, and I’ve been confused by some of your passed claims about Braille access. However, when your errors have been pointed out, you don’t seem to want to acknowledge that. Again, as I said, if you are that dissatisfied with Apple, you are free to find your accessibility in whatever other way you think will meet your standards.
Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, [email protected] Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Nov 19, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Todd Patkus <[email protected]> wrote: > > John, > > Would you please quit babbling. I do not have to agree. I am simply amking > points that are simple facts. You need to learn to be a little bit more > understanding. You do not know what you are thinking. > > I am sure Rich will tell y’all something. > > Obnly grow up. > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of John Panarese > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 9:00 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Home and Ios 10. > > He lost me a long time ago. I can’t figure out if he’s just extremely > opinionated, generally misinformed or possibly trolling. If someone disagrees > with him, they are in the wrong or are picking on him. I don’t know and I > don’t have the time to figure it out. Hopefully, Mark and Cara are following > things and can deal with it. If he’s that unhappy with Apple, he’s probably > better off going some place else for his accessibility then. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi Todd, >> >> I think at this point most of us are losing you. You say Apple should have >> had the feature a long time ago where apps can be deleted. If you are >> talking about native apps then yes, you are probably right, but it has >> always been possible to delete apps you install yourself and now as of iOS >> 10 you can also delete many of the native apps. As Richard explained very >> clearly this is also possible using a braille display with no speech >> whatsoever, sounds like the only thing one has to do on the phone itself is >> press the home button when you are all done to get out of the editing mode. >> I really don't see what Apple can do to make it easier than it is now and >> Rich actually described another way to delete apps via Settings.. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of Todd Patkus >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:46 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: Home and Ios 10. >> >> To all, >> >> Now, look at what Pablo said? >> >> Rich, you failed this time. I told you millions of times Apple should have >> had that feature long ago where apps can be deleted! That company is really >> screwed up anyway! Go with them or not! >> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of Pablo C. Morales >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:47 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: Home and Ios 10. >> >> Yes, you can place apps that you don’t use in a place that you know. However >> some people like me, I don’t like some apps that are built on my phone> now >> with this IOs, I am able to remove from my phone some apps that came built >> in my phone. Example: stocks app, or the iWatch app, or other apps that I >> just don’t use. I deleted them, and now I have more space on my home screen, >> more space in folders. >> >> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of Dianne Phelps >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:47 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Home and Ios 10. >> >> I am not sure which screen you are all talking about, but for my “Home” >> screen holding all of my apps, I simply rearranged the order of thingsquite >> extensively, placing things I don’t use at the end of the list and those >> things I do use more often on the first page which saves me a great deal of >> time. I don’t feel I need to really delete anything as I have enough space >> in memory for those things I wish to do. Though I don’t use certain things >> offered, I figure someone somewhere does. 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