Hi Keith,

" persnickety", now here is a word you don't hear often *smile*.
Anyhow, I wish my wife was so persnickety as to forbid me to vacuum, she's just 
happy if I do it!
Have you contacted Neato regarding the accessibility? I am wondering what their 
reply was if they replied. I may even try to contact them and tell them that 
I'd love to buy one of these, but I won't do so until they make a commitment to 
accessibility and until I hear from other users the app has become fully 
accessible. This reminds me a bit of Sonos 6 or 7 years ago. The app was 
useable but not very accessible. At first Sonos seemed not too impressed by my 
efforts to convince them, but I guess it got to a point where more and more 
people bought Sonos and complained and at one point there was a bit turn-around 
and ever since accessibility remains unbroken and apparently a priority.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:19 PM
To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Neato bot vacuum

Hi Sieghard,

Well, initially, an earlier version of the app was more accessible. With this 
earlier accessibility, and hopefully renewed accessibility in future upgrades, 
I mostly managed the entire use of the botvac through the app. I did start the 
app from a distance, which was nice coming home from a weekend away to a 
freshly cleaned home. I also like the option, as Sandy mentioned, of knowingly 
selecting either the higher powered Turbo setting or the less powerful Eco 
setting, both for whole home cleaning from the start or the small or large spot 
cleans. I never used the Schedule function as its better for our household to 
set the thing off when we're leaving for a few hours; we don't have a 
predictable schedule for absences.

Since the upgrade that broke the initial accessibility, which wasn't complete 
by any means, I now use the app for learning the battery charge, which wasn't 
available in the earlier more accessible app. And, I like getting updates when 
away from home as to how the thing is doing, whether still cleaning, or 
completed, or stuck. If I learn it gets stuck on something or another shortly 
after I leave, I know I still need to do a house cleaning when I get back. But 
if it gets stuck just as I'm getting home after several hours, I know it's a 
mostly clean house. Note, the the thing doesn't get stuck much anymore, as I've 
learned what to modify to reduce its hang ups.

I do wish the thing had a Ping option from the app, to aid in locating it if it 
gets stuck, especially when I've been away from home. It does chirp out at 
irregular intervals when stuck, but it can be a game of cat and mouse to find 
it, and sometimes I have to wait for 5 to 10 minutes for another chirp. But 
then sometimes, it chirps out every 20 seconds or so. I might use a Tile 
accessory if a Ping option doesn't become available.

I'm optimistic the accessibility will improve, but it's certainly possible that 
it won't. Nevertheless, I can use the thing without the app if I need to, and 
I'm glad to, as it has allowed me to resume vacuuming responsibilities in our 
household after being forbidden from doing so for several decades because I 
wasn't able to vacuum as completely thoroughly as my persnickety wife's 
cleaning standards required. Now, she is quite happy letting the Neato do the 
vacuuming, and she readily admits to it doing a better job than she did. And, 
this is no small complement.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Neato bot vacuum

Correct, only the model that has "Connect" in the name can connect to WiFi and 
has an app. Both Neato and Roomba have models which typically cost at least 
$300 less for a non-connected version. I think companies currently do charge 
quite a premium for the simple addition of a WiFi modem and the fact that you 
have an app with which you can do some stuff. I talked my Mom into a Neato 
Connected vacuum when she had her hip replacement surgery half a year ago and 
for the most part she doesn't even have it on WiFi and just starts it 
manually.I am actually curious what all people who own them do via the app 
other than start them or maybe start them when they aren't home. I think I saw 
a Black Friday deal for a not connected Roomba model for less than $400 
canadian which is half the price of the connected model.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Neato bot vacuum

I understand the only Neato product with an app is the botvac Connected. It's 
possible, though, that they have introduced other models to app-dom. Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Kellie
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 1:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Neato bot vacuum

Hey everyone, I just had a question about the neato bot vacuum. 
Is there any particular model that I should be looking at for accessibility? We 
found one online that is supposed to be good if you have pets. The model is the 
D 80. Is this model have an iPhone app to go with it? Or is there another model 
that people have been buying. 
Thank you and advance for any help.

Kellie and Loki  
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