I agree and no accusation. I was only looking for some way to reconcile the difference and hoping against major issues. I appologize for the comment as it was taken personally and I should not have said it that way.
On 9/16/12, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote: > To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and > reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed > out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be > fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for > quite some time now. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, [email protected] > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > Twitter, @macfortheblind > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > > On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, "AnonyMouse" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I >> certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis >> has >> always been a reliable source of information. >> >> As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider >> turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for >> most >> others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by >> turning on and off the VO. >> >> I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the >> only >> major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 >> itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't >> believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there >> were other issues. >> >> So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are >> blowing >> smoke. >> >> Regards, >> AnonyMouse >> AppleVis Editorial Team >> www.AppleVis.com >> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville >> Zello: =AnonyMouse= >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >> >> I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. >> If >> they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the >> areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the >> others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said >> there are not. >> >> Jim >> >> On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote: >>> The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. >>> However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the >>> only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than >>> unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using >> iTunes. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Daniel Miller >>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going >>> to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for >>> those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, >>> there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are >> completely rolled out. >>> Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since >>> the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. >>> Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>> >>> OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the >>> App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it >>> is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be >>> more helpful. >>> >>> First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been >>> said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password when you >> update. >>> You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, >>> still have to enter your password when you install a free app. >>> >>> When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store >>> and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply >>> stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the >>> update button, I can see nothing that gives you confirmation that the >>> app update has begun downloading. However, if you go to your home >>> screen right away, you will be able to see that it in fact has, >>> because you can see the percentage of the download and install >>> changing. >>> >>> So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to update. >>> yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, or >>> downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't inaccessible at >>> all. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos >>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m. >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>> >>> Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and >>> speculated on, I would say that if you have information which helps to >>> clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the judge of how much >>> you >> can say. >>> >>> Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before >>> commenting. >>> >>> Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new >>> changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you >>> can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you will >>> be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you will have >>> to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping the gun so >>> quickly, you won't be as surprised. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's the >>> little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not important >> right now. >>> - >>> Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >>> Face book: http://facebook.com/rau47 >>> >>> On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>> I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like >>>> clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to >>>> continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be >>>> under >>> NDA. >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of James Mannion >>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >>>> >>>> Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in >>>> updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or >>>> reliability issues? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On 9/16/12, Kliphton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, >>>>> especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we >>>>> even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait >>>>> for >>> Wednesday. >>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does >>>>>> anybody >>>>>> know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. 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