Hi all,

I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never
through ITunes.  Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps
from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to
IOS 6.  September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday
present and not a pain in the neck.

Thanks

Ron & Danvers


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of John Panarese
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

     To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and
reliable.  I am glad that this was mentioned by them.  As someone pointed
out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be
fixed.  In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for
quite some time now.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
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On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, "AnonyMouse" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past 
> I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that 
> AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information.
> 
> As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you 
> consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is 
> a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe 
> you can just do by turning on and off the VO.
> 
> I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the 
> only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the 
> IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I 
> don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have 
> said there were other issues.
> 
> So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are 
> blowing smoke.
> 
> Regards,
> AnonyMouse
> AppleVis Editorial Team
> www.AppleVis.com
> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
> Zello: =AnonyMouse=
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of James Mannion
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
> 
> I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they 
> did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at 
> leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were 
> blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major 
> issues. A few have said there are not.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well.
>> However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the 
>> only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than 
>> unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using
> iTunes.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going 
>> to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for 
>> those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, 
>> there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes 
>> are
> completely rolled out.
>> Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since 
>> the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself.
>> Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>> 
>> OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the 
>> App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it 
>> is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be 
>> more helpful.
>> 
>> First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already 
>> been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password 
>> when you
> update.
>> You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, 
>> still have to enter your password when you install a free app.
>> 
>> When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store 
>> and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply 
>> stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the 
>> update button, I can see nothing that gives you confirmation that the 
>> app update has begun downloading. However, if you go to your home 
>> screen right away, you will be able to see that it in fact has, 
>> because you can see the percentage of the download and install 
>> changing.
>> 
>> So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to update. 
>> yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, or 
>> downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't inaccessible at
all.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and 
>> speculated on, I would say that if you have information which helps 
>> to clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the judge of how 
>> much you
> can say.
>> 
>> Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before commenting.
>> 
>> Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new 
>> changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you 
>> can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you will 
>> be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you will have 
>> to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping the gun so 
>> quickly, you won't be as surprised.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's the 
>> little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not 
>> important
> right now.
>> -
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>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
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>> 
>> On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>>> I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like 
>>> clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to 
>>> continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be 
>>> under
>> NDA.
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>> Behalf Of James Mannion
>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m.
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>>> 
>>> Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in 
>>> updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or 
>>> reliability issues?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On 9/16/12, Kliphton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, 
>>>> especially in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and 
>>>> we even have a do not disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's 
>>>> wait for
>> Wednesday.
>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody
>>>>> know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank you!
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