You are absolutely right! Who knows until we try it ourselves!
Blind Treasures Phone: (804)-726-8900 Sales: sa...@blindtreasures.com Skype: kingmeade Web Page: http://www.blindtreasures.com -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T & T Wireless Interesting because I was told differently by two other reps. So, I guess we will not know until iOS 6 is out and folks try it. I think that is one way to really answer such questions since the reps are obviously not informed, which for the record may not even be their fault. Lots of info to communicate and not all organizations are always efficient in getting the word to the right people. On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:56 AM, "blind Treasures" <blindtreasu...@comcast.net> wrote: > That is strange since I talked to two different att customer service > reps and was told by both of them that there would be no restrictions > or extra charges using face time over 3g as long as your data plan covered the usage. > I called back twice just to make sure I got the same story before > preordering the new IPhone. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T & T Wireless > > Grant, I do; however, AT&T also plans to prevent those of us with > unlimited data plans from even using the Face TIme service over 3G. In > fact I guess anyone without a shared data plan will be prevented from using Face TIme. > Verizon Wireless and Sprint do not plan to do this and I'm hoping AT&T > will back down as well. As aggravated as I have been of late with some > of the nonsense of AT&T (yes many carriers engage in the same > behavior) it just seems that there has been some things going on that > really bother me. I had an AT&T customer service employee tell me that > APple dictates how soon people can upgrade and when. That is simply > false and for anyone at AT&T to say this is lying. Apple has nothing > to do with the upgrades and would love for you to buy another phone. > So, yeah I am a little sensitive about what they are up to. > > On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Grant Hardy <grantha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. >> I'm not an AT&T customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just >> something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out >> whether it's true. >> >> Cheers, Grant >> >> On 9/16/12, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Grant, >>> >>> I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I >>> found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to >>> check into this and AT&T had better hope they throttle LTE customers >>> as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. >>> >>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy <grantha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, AT&T doesn't throttle their >>>> unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or >>>> am I mistaken? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Grant >>>> >>>> On 9/15/12, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Mark, >>>>> >>>>> I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited >>>>> data plan. >>>>> However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you >>>>> exceed 3Gb, AT&T throttles your speed to the point that it is >>>>> completely unreasonable. >>>>> Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the >>>>> doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the >>>>> contract. If AT&T pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over >>>>> the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on >>>>> the horn to the FCC and raise hell. >>>>> In >>>>> fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with >>>>> unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand >>>>> Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T & T Wireless. >>>>>> In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T >>>>>> & T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to >>>>>> cancel the order before its completion. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement >>>>>> that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, >>>>>> didn't sound quite right. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the >>>>>> online preorder process was a wise decision. >>>>>> >>>>>> Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan >>>>>> that A T & T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's >>>>>> online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data >>>>>> plan to one that did not include unlimited data. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done >>>>>> so but I can tell you that A T & T Wireless would love to remove >>>>>> all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do >>>>>> darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there >>>>>> agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree >>>>>> without reading it. >>>>>> >>>>>> In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I >>>>>> will go into an A T & T Wireless corporate store, remove my own >>>>>> SIM card from my current device, and place it in the new device >>>>>> to insure that nothing funky happens with my data plan. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Luck To All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To 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