Hi folks The last 2 updates to 103.0 are still having the same bug. However, the latest facebook update 78.0 resolved different accessibility issues. Now it is again possible to open threads and the navigation of the whole screen is that of the thread and no longer the newsfeed. To access the opened thread you had to perform a one finger click in the middle of the screen but that is resolved now. Regards Davy
From: Brian Fischler Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I am running the latest version of iOs on a iPhone 7 and like Davey the past two updates of Messenger lost a lot of the buttons being labeled. I contacted FBAccess on Twitter and got their typical fill out this form. On Jan 20, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Kevin Wassmer <[email protected]> wrote: Hello folks. I don't post much on this list. But I aggree with Stacy. This app is not as accessable as the other versons of Messenger. It works ok. But not that great. For example, I was trying to messege a friend who I haven't writen to in a while. I kept flicking to the right on the screen. It kept getting me gack to the begining of the people I messaged. In fact, I belive once I flicked on to the last person who I messaged. The app braught me back to the top. what I had to do is go to the tabs at the bottem. Then I had to flick to the left and I was able to find others I have messaged in recent times. it does work with Voice-over. But not like it has in the past. On 1/20/17, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and easy to use. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Ioana Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit my message buttons were nolonger labeled. Which iphone do you use? Regards Davy From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's not present for all voiceover users. Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see what happens. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is automatically sent. Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi folks Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the app! The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, despite numerous messages sent by the blind community Facebook refused to restore accessibility. Now this issue will be sent over by me to numerous newspapers and all forums of the blind community saying that facebook is reluctant to solve these accessibility issues since update 100.1. If facebook is nolonger willing to take accessibility into consideration for Messenger usage, please make the latest update before v100.1 back available on the Apple appstore. Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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