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> On May 16, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I may have missed part of this thread. > What country are you in? > > Richard > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Nimer Jaber > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: GPS Apps > > Hello, > > When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask > Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me > intersection announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that > this is very spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get > excellent GPS reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing > > Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" > which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that > menu... and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user. > > Thanks. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need > it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other > large cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be > unreliable. I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have > currently a 3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk > quite fast and so far the app seems to give me information about > intersections in time. Apart from that I don’t care too much if it tells me > every 5 seconds that I’m on so and so street since I usually know what street > I’m on and if I want on demand information I just ask SIRI “What is my > current location” and it tells me the address with street name or an address > range with street name. > Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d > like to take a look as I don’t recall one. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Nimer Jaber > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: GPS Apps > > Hello, > > How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well > does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My > concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree > with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?. > > Thanks. > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive > funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I > think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing > Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some > degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s > interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I > experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where > Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate > instructions. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Andy Baracco > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM > > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: GPS Apps > > One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. > when folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they > would need to secure more funding. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nimer Jaber > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM > Subject: Re: GPS Apps > > Hello, > > I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me > not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are > work-arounds, please let me know: > > Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I want > announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is busy > and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion. > The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app > says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the > device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at > times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like > intersection descriptions though... > The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I often > did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds can > be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you receive accurate > information. > Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long. > Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name on it. > It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not see fit to > make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an alternative to > the inaccessible maps. > Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I can > explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this app > for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button > descriptions and labels? > Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can tell, is > free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I am not > sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged for > exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that, in > all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the devs can > do. > > > I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or > tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial, otherwise > I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody serious about > independent navigation use this app. Intersection descriptions are about the > best thing this app does right. While that is useful, I am not sure that that > is worth paying a recurring subscription or $299. > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna <[email protected]> wrote: > I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year. > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Feliciano Godoy > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM > > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: GPS Apps > > On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby > explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby explorer > was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior. I don't > care much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses for that. > BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points of interest. > > Regards, > > Feliciano > For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v > Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v > > On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app over > Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as well as > because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several instances > found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is what the Seeing > Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: GPS Apps > > > Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just buy > the iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less expensive. > Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as > Nearby Explorer. > I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps since I > do not use it. > I hope you find a good combination. > Richard > > > On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie <[email protected]> wrote: > > I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google > maps does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give > you points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn > by turn. > Marie > > > From: Nimer Jaber > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: GPS Apps > > Hello, > > On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they would > offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once, however > was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it quite good > as I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could choose whether > to use onboard or online maps. It had features that no other app used. I am > considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am interested in others' > experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an app which will announce > intersections accurately as I approach them, as well as points of interest. > It would be good if it offered turn-by-turn navigation, although I would > mostly use Google Maps for that. Getting heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is > good as well, as I do enjoy getting out to geocache from time to time. > > So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will BlindSquare > meet my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? 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