I guess it's lucky nobody was at the top of that ladder and you knocked it over 
*smile*
Maybe somebody had to go on the roof of the business to perform a repair and 
I'm not so sure somebody in that situation would have to erect some sort of 
barrier around the ladder which after all is not there permanently but only 
temporarily leaning up against the building. It is also up to us to use the 
correct techniques so we walk safely and it's not as if a ladder only is at 
head height where there is no way you would encounter it even with correct cane 
technique or where maybe your guide dog may not react to it. Maybe I am wrong 
in this, but if I bumped into a ladder I'd probably tell myself to be more 
careful, to me it's not quite the same as when there is a 6 foot deep hole in 
the side walk because of construction with no barrier. . This is, by the way, 
not meant as an sort of statement that your complaint is wrong, it is just how 
I'd feel about it.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Blindness takes a stand!

Clifton,

Did you ever think about pulling your iPhone out of your pocket and start a 
video recording?  It produces unquestioned documentation.
Fortunately, the airline accepted your version of events and took corrective 
action. It could have easily lied and said you walked off the plane because you 
were hungry and your ticket was refunded in goodwill.  United Airlines has lied 
about two incidents but video showed the airline was wrong.

Today, I was walking down a busy commercial street in my neighborhood here in 
Chicago.  I ran into a ladder that a business propped against the side of its 
building.  Fortunately, just my shoulder and arm grazed the ladder, and I was 
not injured. There was no barrier to prevent pedestrians from walking into the 
ladder by accident.  I pulled out my iPhone and took a couple of pictures to 
document for the city to take enforcement action.


Kelly



On 6/3/17, Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote:
> the last guy that told me I couldn't do something on account of being 
> blind not only got proven wrong (and most publicly, but he also lost 
> the $500 bet I made with him (in front of witnesses no less).
>
> A basic rule here is this: if a blind person makes a $500 bet against 
> your statement, be prepared to lose the $500 to said blind person.
>
> -eric
> *** http://www.tiny.cc/EricOyen
>
> On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> You all know very well blind people cannot do anything. LOL How many 
>> times have you herd that.
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Tony
>> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:01 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Blindness takes a stand!
>>
>> Good for you.
>>
>> My sighted wife was thrown off a plane several years ago for 
>> traveling with a week old baby.  The stewardess claimed it was a FAA 
>> reg.  I called the FAA and found they have no such reg.
>>
>> A friend was pulled off a plane for traveling with a service dog.  
>> They demanded to see his doctor’s letter prescribing an emotional 
>> assistance dog.  That wasn’t the purpose for having the dog.  
>> Emotional assistance dogs are the only animals that require documentation.
>>
>> Unfortunately, both happened on Southwest which has been good to me 
>> and my guide dogs in the past.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
>> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 2:39 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Blindness takes a stand!
>>
>> Recently I was discriminated against by frontier airlines.  They 
>> wouldn’t allow me to travel with my 18 month old grand daughter.  I 
>> called newspapers, news stations, and made my voice heard.  Not just 
>> for me, but for the whole blind community and those after me so they 
>> will get treated fairly.  Below is the links to the 2 news casts done 
>> by ABC Action, Fox 13, and and article written by the Tampa times.  
>> Just thought this may be a positive thing for the BBE, as well as the blind 
>> community.
>>
>> ABC action news
>> http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-tampa/local-minister-told-he
>> -cant-fly-frontier-because-he-is-blind
>>
>> Fox 13 new
>> http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/258629411-story
>>
>> News article in tampa times
>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/airlines/frontier-airlines-refu
>> sed-to-allow-blind-man-and-granddaughter-on-plane-at/2325975
>>
>> My youtube channel playlist has the interviews in there entirety
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ3rbZxjU37GmgIzV-rlsP_zaZoJY1
>> xSb&app=desktop
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