The GPS add on for the Victor Reader will cost more than $300 with $20
map updates if Humanware charges the same as it did for updates to its
previous GPS product.  That's a bargain considering the price of
Nearby Explorer, which is under $100.   Aph is testing maps outside
North America so those around the world can have this advancement.
All the iPhone GPS apps are able to provide many more points of
interest than what the victor Reader Trek will provide because the GPS
apps can access huge datasets from Google and Foursquare on the
Internet that are updated constantly.  The NE app for example can
guide a blind user to the exact location of  a bus stop, as the
coordinates of each bus stop have been downloaded to the user's
device.  The Trek may have buttons but the iPhone apps have enormous
amounts of rich data to supply to iPhone users. For most people, which
are those who will have a data connection and occasional access to
Wifi, the iPhone experience will likely be more robust and useful.

Kelly

On 7/8/17, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Gps is also being upgraded, so either system is claiming it will allow us to
> eventually have 1 meter accuracy (but amny years away).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 4:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>
> ahh ha, but if Galileo lives up to its claims, we should get enough position
> to actually take us to a given door! this all comes down to clocks on
> satellites and our access to decimal points. Galileo gives us access to many
> more decimal points, thus, we can expect much much greater accuracy from it.
> what's more, Galileo is up and running and has been since January. it has,
> already, greatly improved search and rescue response times. Galileo is the
> only non-military GPS system, at the moment. for this reason, restrictions
> of accuracy do not apply. so, if anyone can find out more, particularly as
> to which devices can use it, do please let us know!
>
> from Sandy, who needs all the help she can get!
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 15:04, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No GPS is accurate enough to tell you exactly where the door is located.
>>
>> That is where your cane skills come in, not to mention the willingness to
>> ask passers-by.
>> Or, open the door you find and ask if it is the correct location.
>> GPS is to supplement good travel skills, no one should depend on it
>> entirely.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Husna Begum
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 4:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> which one tells you where the door is then, you really need to know that.
>>
>> Husna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>
>> I would second, or third, the votes for BlindSquare. Though it is not
>> specifically an app to give direction from Point A to Point B, you can
>> use BlindSquare to get information about your environment, in
>> conjunction with Apple/Google Maps to get directions, or to look up
>> other information like menus from many restaurants. Also, it is
>> updated fairly often with fixes and new features. I recall seeing in
>> the last update that their Open Street Map data was updated, whatever
>> that means. If you want something more "blindness specific" which will
>> tell you exactly where the door of a business is locate relative to
>> you, then go for one of the other more expensive apps. BlindSquare
>> works for me and suits my purposes.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Kelly:
>>>
>>> Good points.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>
>>> Another consideration is where in the world you are located.  You do not
>>>
>>> say
>>> and this is an important consideration for anyone asking for app
>>> recommendations. Nearby Explorer is only currently available in North
>>> America while the other two have maps for other parts of the world.
>>> Also,
>>> you do not say if you need the app in a language other than English.
>>> Nearby
>>> explorer supports only English while Blind Square supports more than 20
>>> languages.  English though is an international language spoken
>>> throughout
>>> the world by educated peple.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>> On 6/18/17, Jim Noseworthy <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Well,
>>>>
>>>> It depends what GPS functions you're looking for: orientational,
>>>> navigational, or both and what you're willing to spend.
>>>>
>>>> If you're wanting both orientational and navigational gps, your
>>>> choices are "Seeing Eye Gps", and "Nearby Explorer."
>>>>
>>>> In this writer's opinion, "Nearby Explorer is a much better option
>>>> than Seeing Eye GPS;
>>>> 1:  It's much cheeper;
>>>> 2: Updates to the program are much more frequent.
>>>> 3: It is, in my opinion, a much more complete GPS system than
>>>> Seeing-Eye GPS.
>>>>
>>>> If, on the otherhand, you're only interested in orientational GPS, by
>>>> far, your best option is, again in my opinion, BlindSquare.  It's been
>>>> around now for some time and is a very mature product.  It also
>>>> supports the "What Three Words" service.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:43 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Mike, although I don't have a lot of experience with
>>>> Seeing Eye; it's price alone of $300 is a great deal more than the $80
>>>> of Nearby Explorer.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the support for Seeing Eye may be better (in that you can
>>>> pick up a phone and call someone, or email their support department),
>>>> where-as Nearby Explorer's only support is a mailing list (nothing
>>>> else).  The lack of support is perhaps my only significant criticism
>>>> offered for Nearby Explorer.
>>>>
>>>> If money is very important, you can try the $20 Blind Square ... not
>>>> my favorite because the maps it uses for intersections are "free" ones
>>>> created by volunteers, and so often quite incorrect, but it's price is
>>>> the
>>>> best.
>>>>
>>>> Hth,
>>>>
>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 12:18 PM
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>>>> Subject: Re: which GPS app should i buy?
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion, nearby explorer is by far the best one, it provides the
>>>> most automatic feedback, much better than the seeing eye app, I would
>>>> go with nearby explorer for sure.
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