If I upgrade to another Iphone this year, it's the 8 plus for sure. I am not even in to smaller devices but would even consider going for the 8 256 gb before I would buy the X. I want to give them another year to get down face id, and I am really more of a touch id fan because my phone doesn't need to look at my face to unlock. I can just unlock really quickly with my device in my pocket. Plus I can't justify the increased monthly cost. If the X had so many new features the 8 didn't maybe I could.
On 9/14/17, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > that’s what I am looking for. > > From: Andy Baracco > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 23:52 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > The carriers may offer discounts as an incentive to switch. > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Otten > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > The price isn't going to go down very much this year. Unlike what happens > with android phones, where you see all kinds of discounts and deals and two > for one at Cetera, don't look for any big deals on the iPhone ex. Besides, > as a blind person, it makes zero sense to buy this phone. You get nothing > that you can't get in the iPhone 8 Plus. > Mary > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 13, 2017, at 8:24 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > that price will come down over time if the market is anything to go on. > > From: Jewel > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 22:30 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > From what I hear, precious little to precious none!! and the price makes > it even more unattractive! > Who wants to keep up with the well-heeled Jones' anyway? > > Jewel > > From: Cris Ali > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > > I love the short text channel on Seeing AI. I almost stopped using KNFB > reader entirely because of that. I used to use KNFB reader mostly to > identify the pieces of mail I get, but now I use seeing AI instead. > > Cheers, > > Cris > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:33 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > > I think OCR results also depend on who is doing the scanning since there > are people on this list who say they can’t for the life of them even get > anything good with KNFB Reader. > > If the print is good I get near 100% accuracy both with KNFB Reader and > the document scanning channel in Seeing AI. > > The short text channel of that app is almost miraculous in it’s speed > and accuracy. > > A better camera may make a difference in how good of a result you get in > difficult lighting or if your hand is a bit shaky, but when it comes down to > it then under good lighting conditions somebody with a steady hand and with > a good ability to hold the phone straight and at the right distance to the > page would probably get a better result with an iPhone 5S than somebody who > wasn’t able to do a good job with an iPhone X. > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Cris Ali > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > > I say this because I have been using OCR apps, including text detective, > text grabber prizmo, KNFB reader and others since iPhone 4S and have not > seen a huge OCR improvements. In other words the OCR improvements do not > match the huge changes in the photo quality across the various releases of > the iPhone. Of course the improvements in stability and speed of > recognition are noticeable between 4S and five, 5 and 5S, 6 and 6S etc.… > but the speed and stability are functions of memory and processor> I would > imagine that the great improvements in Cameras would be reflected in much > more accurate OCR results. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > > Why do you say developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantage of > the camera capabilities of the 6S and 7? Just curious how you know this? > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Cris Ali > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:44 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in > iPhone 10? > > > May be it is too early to tell because none of us has seen iPhone ten > yet. But I listened to the Apple description of the hardware carefully and > I could not find in it anything for me as a blind user which does not > already exist in iPhone seven or the forth coming iPhone eight. How many > pixels on the retina display is of no interest to me since I have the > curtains always turned on. I am not sure how much advantages could the > developers of OCR apps can find in iPhone ten’s camera to perfect their > products, As is the Cameras in the existing iPhone six S and Seven are > great, and the developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantages of them > yet. > > Very curious to know if You folks have reached similar tentative > impressions to mine. > > Regards, > > Cris > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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