For those who were wondering if Face ID would work with
sunglasses there is an article from MacDaily news out saying Face ID works with
most sunglasses.
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:45 AM -0400, "Alan Paganelli"
<alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I have the iPhone seven with the largest capacity available. I think I'll wait
for several years before I go for a new phone.
Alan
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On Sep 13, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Sounds like somebody who wants to be heard, from all I have seen so far Apple
has really nailed this and I assume it will be much more intuitive and easy to
use as this person makes it out to be. As he said, he hasn’t
tried it yet and therefore it’s all just speculation. Apparently what Samsung
has done so far is a bit of a joke since it’s possible to fool their phones to
unlock when you show them a picture of a person.
Apple said during their keynote that with Touch Id there was a 1 in 50,000
chance somebody else could unlock yourphone with their finger print, with Face
Id they say the chance somebody elses face will unlock your phone
is 1 in a Million unless it’s an identical twin.
Where I do see it as more cumbersome is for blind people, I have a Roots
leather belt holster which when the phone is in it upside down as it has to be
because the headphone jack is on the bottom there is just a 1 inch
wide strap with magnetic closure over the phone and if you lift this up about
the third bottom part of the screen is exposed. This means I can unlock my 6S
Plus with Touch Id while I have it in my belt holster and I can open an app in
the dock or on the bottom
two rows of the home screen and so on. Also, sometimes in the winter I might
unlock my phone in the pocket of my coat for some easy operations and this of
course won’t be possible any more unless I enter my passcode which is a lot
more difficult to do with
one hand when I am walking and have the phone in my pocket.
OK so I guess it’s all a mute point for me personally since I am not planning
to buy an iPhone X nor for that matter an iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, just had too many
other large expenses this year like getting the roof on my
house done, we bought a new sofa/love seat/recliner chair set for our living
room and a few new expensive woodworking tools somehow ended up in my shop,
too. If I were still on an iPhone 6 or even a 5S it would be different, but my
wife has a 6S and I have
the 6S Plus, both phones are in great shape and work flawlessly, battery is
still good and so we’ll wait until next fall to upgrade. I would be surprised
if Apple wouldn’t push Face Id and make it a feature on all of their phones and
maybe even iPads next
year although now that they have the “normal” 8 and 8 Plus and the iPhone X I
would also be surprised if they don’t continue with this trend and make a
premium phone in addition to 2 or 3 regular ones similar to how they have the
iPad Pro. OLED screens of
course probably also become standard so it will be interesting to see what
they come up with to set a high-end phone apart from the rest so that people
are willing to spend an extra couple of hundred Dollars on it, maybe I’m wrong
and next year all phnes will
get Face Id, OLED screen and everything else which sets the iPhone X apart
this year.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Subject: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
Ars Technica / Ron Amadeo
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/ This right here. This gesture. Doing this 80 times a day sucks.
The all-new
iPhone X is out, and it's packed with technology. But one thing it's not packed
with is a fingerprint sensor. Like many phones in 2017, the iPhone X goes for a
nearly all-screen design, which means there's no more room for a front Touch ID
sensor. Rather
than locate a fingerprint sensor on the back, like many phones have done,
Apple chose to do away with Touch ID entirely. Instead, the X is relying only
on the new "Face ID" facial recognition feature for biometric security.
Face ID on the iPhone X uses a "TrueDepth" camera setup, which blasts your face
with more than 30,000 infrared dots and scans your face in 3D. Apple says this
can "recognize you in an instant" and log you into your phone.
None of that matters. Face ID is still going to suck.
This is not the first phone we've tried with a facial recognition feature, and
they all have the same problem. It doesn't matter how fast or accurate Face ID
is, the problem is the ergonomics: you need to aim it at your face. This is
slow and awkward, especially
when compared to a fingerprint reader, which doesn't have to be aimed at
anything.
Consider the "taking it out of your pocket" use case: If you're good, you'll
stick your hand in your pocket and grip the phone so your finger lands on the
fingerprint reader. Touch ID works as both an "on" button and an
"authentication" button. In one touch,
you've turned on the phone and logged in. You haven't even fully taken the
phone out of your pocket yet, and it's already on and unlocked. By the time you
bring the phone to your face, the unlock process is finished and you're looking
at the home screen.
To use the iPhone X's Face ID, you have take the phone out of your pocket, lift
it up to your face, swipe up to turn it on, and only then can can you start the
unlock process. The difference is probably one or two seconds, but for
something you do
80 times a day, having the fastest possible unlock system really matters.
Hardware involved in Apple's True Depth Camera system.
Example of how Face ID maps and learns your face.
Demo of Face ID setup.
Animojis, which move to mimic your facial expressions.
3D mask produced with facial recognition on the iPhone X.
Face ID recognition along with a tap of the side button can authenticate Apple
Pay.
Consider authenticating with Apple Pay. With a fingerprint reader, you can slam
your iPhone on the credit card terminal while holding your finger on the Touch
ID button, and everything will
just work. You're continuously authenticating and beaming credit card data at
the same time, which is easy, intuitive, and hard to mess up. According to
Craig Federighi's Face ID demo during the
keynote, you now have to open up Apple Pay first, then aim the phone at your
face so Face ID can work. Only
then can you tap against the credit card terminal. That's two extra steps.
A fingerprint sensor, because it works by touch, is basically active all the
time. Anytime you need it, you just press it, and it will work. Facial
recognition has to be specifically started by an app though. So to authenticate
a payment, you now have to
open Apple Pay first, because something has to tell the facial recognition
system to turn on. If you ignore this and just put the phone against a credit
card terminal without authenticating, I suspect Apple Pay will open and ask for
a Face ID scan, which won't
work because the phone won't be aimed at your face.
There's also the "on a table" use case: where before you could just press the
home button to unlock the phone, now you'll need to pick it up and, again, aim
it at your face.
We've kind of already experienced this with the
Galaxy S8 (and
Note 8). On that phone, Samsung didn't do away with the fingerprint sensor
entirely, but it has such an awkward size and location
that the S8 might as well have not had a fingerprint sensor at all. The phone
design asks users to rely on its Iris or face recognition for biometrics, and
it's just so slow. The "Let me take a selfie" pose that you have to make every
time you unlock the phone
is slow, tiring, and annoying. It requires a pause and a level of precision
that just isn't needed with a fingerprint reader.
I will admit I have not tried Face ID yet, but it's hard to imagine a facial
recognition system that solves the problem of having to carefully aim a phone
at your face. We won't get a chance to try many of these scenarios until we get
some extended time
with the phone, but it would take some serious magic to solve them.
With a nearly $1000 price tag, Apple is billing the iPhone X as its
super-high-end, no-compromise phone, but the lack of a fingerprint sensor is
going to be a big downside. Sure, there's no room on the front anymore, but
plenty of phones have an easy and
ergonomic rear fingerprint reader, and it's something Apple could have done
while it waits for that mythical
under-screen fingerprint technology to work.
Facial recognition is just not a good idea for a device that doesn't always
need to be aimed directly at your face. I can't imagine Face ID won't feel like
a big step backwards compared to Touch ID. If my experience with the Galaxy S8
is anything to go by,
I suspect a lot of users will just opt to type in a PIN.
Original Article: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1164837
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