Tara I think because the display name on the list is my name
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 6:11 PM -0400, "TaraPrakash" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Maria. Is it possible that my phone announces your name and not
[email protected] which is your email ID.
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On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:31 PM, [email protected] wrote:
I’m pretty sure. If it doesn’t work you could disable the
attention aware feature and it should just recognize your face
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:28 PM -0400, "Lelia" <[email protected]> wrote:
Just wondering if face ID would work for people with fake eyes hahaa. Not that
I’m intending to get that iPhone.
Lelia
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[email protected]
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Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
For those who were wondering if Face ID would work with sunglasses there is an
article from MacDaily news out saying Face ID works with most sunglasses.
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:45 AM -0400, "Alan Paganelli"
<[email protected]> wrote:
I have the iPhone seven with the largest capacity available. I think I'll wait
for several years before I go for a new phone.
Alan
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On Sep 13, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Sounds like somebody who wants to be heard, from all I have seen so far Apple
has really nailed this and I assume it will be much more intuitive and easy to
use as this person makes it out to be. As he said, he hasn’t tried it yet and
therefore it’s all just speculation. Apparently what Samsung has done so far is
a bit of a joke since it’s possible to fool their phones to unlock when you
show them a picture of a person.
Apple said during their keynote that with Touch Id there was a 1 in 50,000
chance somebody else could unlock yourphone with their finger print, with Face
Id they say the chance somebody elses face will unlock your phone is 1 in a
Million unless it’s an identical twin.
Where I do see it as more cumbersome is for blind people, I have a Roots
leather belt holster which when the phone is in it upside down as it has to be
because the headphone jack is on the bottom there is just a 1 inch wide strap
with magnetic closure over the phone and if you lift this up about the third
bottom part of the screen is exposed. This means I can unlock my 6S Plus with
Touch Id while I have it in my belt holster and I can open an app in the dock
or on the bottom two rows of the home screen and so on. Also, sometimes in the
winter I might unlock my phone in the pocket of my coat for some easy
operations and this of course won’t be possible any more unless I enter my
passcode which is a lot more difficult to do with one hand when I am walking
and have the phone in my pocket.
OK so I guess it’s all a mute point for me personally since I am not planning
to buy an iPhone X nor for that matter an iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, just had too many
other large expenses this year like getting the roof on my house done, we
bought a new sofa/love seat/recliner chair set for our living room and a few
new expensive woodworking tools somehow ended up in my shop, too. If I were
still on an iPhone 6 or even a 5S it would be different, but my wife has a 6S
and I have the 6S Plus, both phones are in great shape and work flawlessly,
battery is still good and so we’ll wait until next fall to upgrade. I would be
surprised if Apple wouldn’t push Face Id and make it a feature on all of their
phones and maybe even iPads next year although now that they have the “normal”
8 and 8 Plus and the iPhone X I would also be surprised if they don’t continue
with this trend and make a premium phone in addition to 2 or 3 regular ones
similar to how they have the iPad Pro. OLED screens of course probably also
become standard so it will be interesting to see what they come up with to set
a high-end phone apart from the rest so that people are willing to spend an
extra couple of hundred Dollars on it, maybe I’m wrong and next year all phnes
will get Face Id, OLED screen and everything else which sets the iPhone X apart
this year.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 8:40 PM
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Subject: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
Ars Technica / Ron Amadeo
Enlarge / This right here. This gesture. Doing this 80 times a day sucks.
The all-new iPhone X is out, and it's packed with technology. But one thing
it's not packed with is a fingerprint sensor. Like many phones in 2017, the
iPhone X goes for a nearly all-screen design, which means there's no more room
for a front Touch ID sensor. Rather than locate a fingerprint sensor on the
back, like many phones have done, Apple chose to do away with Touch ID
entirely. Instead, the X is relying only on the new "Face ID" facial
recognition feature for biometric security.
Face ID on the iPhone X uses a "TrueDepth" camera setup, which blasts your face
with more than 30,000 infrared dots and scans your face in 3D. Apple says this
can "recognize you in an instant" and log you into your phone.
None of that matters. Face ID is still going to suck.
This is not the first phone we've tried with a facial recognition feature, and
they all have the same problem. It doesn't matter how fast or accurate Face ID
is, the problem is the ergonomics: you need to aim it at your face. This is
slow and awkward, especially when compared to a fingerprint reader, which
doesn't have to be aimed at anything.
Consider the "taking it out of your pocket" use case: If you're good, you'll
stick your hand in your pocket and grip the phone so your finger lands on the
fingerprint reader. Touch ID works as both an "on" button and an
"authentication" button. In one touch, you've turned on the phone and logged
in. You haven't even fully taken the phone out of your pocket yet, and it's
already on and unlocked. By the time you bring the phone to your face, the
unlock process is finished and you're looking at the home screen.
To use the iPhone X's Face ID, you have take the phone out of your pocket, lift
it up to your face, swipe up to turn it on, and only then can can you start the
unlock process. The difference is probably one or two seconds, but for
something you do 80 times a day, having the fastest possible unlock system
really matters.
Hardware involved in Apple's True Depth Camera system.
Example of how Face ID maps and learns your face.
Demo of Face ID setup.
Animojis, which move to mimic your facial expressions.
3D mask produced with facial recognition on the iPhone X.
Face ID recognition along with a tap of the side button can authenticate Apple
Pay.
Consider authenticating with Apple Pay. With a fingerprint reader, you can slam
your iPhone on the credit card terminal while holding your finger on the Touch
ID button, and everything will just work. You're continuously authenticating
and beaming credit card data at the same time, which is easy, intuitive, and
hard to mess up. According to Craig Federighi's Face ID demo during the
keynote, you now have to open up Apple Pay first, then aim the phone at your
face so Face ID can work. Only then can you tap against the credit card
terminal. That's two extra steps.
A fingerprint sensor, because it works by touch, is basically active all the
time. Anytime you need it, you just press it, and it will work. Facial
recognition has to be specifically started by an app though. So to authenticate
a payment, you now have to open Apple Pay first, because something has to tell
the facial recognition system to turn on. If you ignore this and just put the
phone against a credit card terminal without authenticating, I suspect Apple
Pay will open and ask for a Face ID scan, which won't work because the phone
won't be aimed at your face.
There's also the "on a table" use case: where before you could just press the
home button to unlock the phone, now you'll need to pick it up and, again, aim
it at your face.
We've kind of already experienced this with the Galaxy S8 (and Note 8). On that
phone, Samsung didn't do away with the fingerprint sensor entirely, but it has
such an awkward size and location that the S8 might as well have not had a
fingerprint sensor at all. The phone design asks users to rely on its Iris or
face recognition for biometrics, and it's just so slow. The "Let me take a
selfie" pose that you have to make every time you unlock the phone is slow,
tiring, and annoying. It requires a pause and a level of precision that just
isn't needed with a fingerprint reader.
I will admit I have not tried Face ID yet, but it's hard to imagine a facial
recognition system that solves the problem of having to carefully aim a phone
at your face. We won't get a chance to try many of these scenarios until we get
some extended time with the phone, but it would take some serious magic to
solve them.
With a nearly $1000 price tag, Apple is billing the iPhone X as its
super-high-end, no-compromise phone, but the lack of a fingerprint sensor is
going to be a big downside. Sure, there's no room on the front anymore, but
plenty of phones have an easy and ergonomic rear fingerprint reader, and it's
something Apple could have done while it waits for that mythical under-screen
fingerprint technology to work.
Facial recognition is just not a good idea for a device that doesn't always
need to be aimed directly at your face. I can't imagine Face ID won't feel like
a big step backwards compared to Touch ID. If my experience with the Galaxy S8
is anything to go by, I suspect a lot of users will just opt to type in a PIN.
Original Article: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1164837
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