sorry mark I didn’t see your email before i posted the mac news dailey article 
yours is more in-depth 
cheers gerry have a nice day
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> On 22 Sep 2017, at 3:52 pm, Gerry Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> here is a exert from the mac dailey news that gives instructions how to copy 
> ring tones to your iPhone iPad or iPod touch 
>> 
>> http://osxdaily.com/2017/09/18/copy-ringtones-to-ios-device-with-itunes-127/ 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2017/09/18/copy-ringtones-to-ios-device-with-itunes-127/>
>> 
>> How to Copy Ringtones to iPhone or iPad in iTunes 12.7
>> 
>> 
>> <itunes-icon.jpg>
>> 
>> You probably know by now that iTunes 12.7 brings some notable changes like 
>> the removal of the App Store from iTunes 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2017/09/13/itunes-12-7-update-removes-app-store/>, 
>> requiring users to manage and install iOS apps directly on an iPhone or iPad 
>> without iTunes 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2017/09/16/manage-ios-apps-iphone-ipad-without-itunes/> 
>> on a computer. Similarly, the ringtone and Tones section has also changed in 
>> the latest iTunes releases, which some users may find confusing when they go 
>> to adjust ringtones on their devices.
>> 
>> The good news is you can still copy and transfer ringtones over to an iPhone 
>> or iPad with iTunes 12.7, and as you’ll see it’s actually quite simple as 
>> you will see.
>> 
>> 
>> You’ll need the latest version of iTunes as well as ringtone files in .m4r 
>> format to accomplish this task. Note that even if you have installed iTunes 
>> 12.7 you will find the ringtone files are still stored locally 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2012/12/21/iphone-ringtone-text-tone-location/> on the 
>> computer as m4r files, much like .ipa files are, so if you had some custom 
>> ringtones before you can likely still find them locally.
>> 
>> How to Copy Tones and Ringtones to iPhone and iPad in iTunes 12.7+
>> 
>> Open iTunes on the computer if you have not done so already
>> Be sure the iPhone is connected to the computer (via wi-fi or USB) and 
>> identified in iTunes, then select the device in iTunes*
>> From the Finder on the Mac, locate the .m4r ringtone file you want to copy 
>> to the iPhone or iPad
>> <ringtone-file-m4r-610x437.jpg>
>> 
>> Drag and drop the ringtone .m4r file into the “On My Device” section of 
>> iTunes to copy the ringtone or tone file over to the iOS device
>> <copy-ringtone-to-iphone-itunes-12-7.jpg>
>> 
>> A new “Tones” section will appear if it’s not already visible showing the 
>> ringtones on the device, repeat with other tones and ringtones in m4r format 
>> as desired
>> * Remember, selecting an iPhone or iPad in iTunes is done by clicking the 
>> little device icon 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2016/05/17/how-select-ios-device-in-itunes/> in the top 
>> bar of iTunes now.
>> 
>> As you can see, copying ringtones to an iOS device with iTunes is still 
>> quite easy.
>> 
>> And yes you can still make your own in iTunes 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2010/09/04/make-free-iphone-ringtones-in-itunes-10/> 
>> the same way as always and copy those over.
>> 
>> This is kind of similar to using the drag and drop approach for copying 
>> music to iPhone in iTunes 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2016/06/10/how-copy-music-onto-iphone-from-itunes/> or 
>> even copying .ipa iOS apps 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2017/09/16/manage-ios-apps-iphone-ipad-without-itunes/> 
>> to devices.
>> 
>> Another option that doesn’t use iTunes at all is to create ringtones on the 
>> iPhone or iPad directly in Garageband 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2015/01/12/create-ringtone-iphone-garageband/>, which 
>> can be done entirely on the iOS device and never requires any kind of 
>> syncing or copying since the ringtone .m4r files are created and then kept 
>> on the device itself.
>> 
>> Of course if this is too much of a bother, you can undertake a cumbersome 
>> task to downgrade iTunes 12.7 back to 12.6 
>> <http://osxdaily.com/2017/09/17/downgrade-itunes-12-7-to-itunes-12-6/>, 
>> though be aware that by downgrading you are likely avoiding the inevitable 
>> future of iTunes as well as iOS device compatibility. 
>> 
> 
> 
> cheers gerry have a nice day
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