I have no useable vision, so my wanting to wait until the LED display comes to the cheaper models has nothing to do with that. But an LED display is much more efficient dan an LCD. The crystals in a liquid crystal display are always on, when the screen is active, even if they aren't being used at the moment. That is why if you have your screen set not to lock and you forget to lock it, it will drain your battery over time. The light emiting diodes in an LED displan are active only when they are being used. That is why the high-end android phones that use these displays can, allegedly, go for days on a battery charge. And, for those who can see it, the LED display is much better. So, when it comes time for me to sell my LED display phone, it might bring more money than my obsolete LCD phone.
As for the facial recognition thing, it may very well be all right now, and if not, I'll bet they will work out some kind of way to make it all right for the totally blind within a model, or two. Remember when the first iPhone came out? It was going to be the end for the blind. We'd better keep those phones with buttons running as long as we could, because the blind just weren't ever going to be able to deal with those touch screens. Really? Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Sep 24, 2017, at 12:25 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Arnold, Are you totally blind? If so, or if you're not, but really don't have usable vision, of what possible interest could the type of display be to you? You can obviously do what you want, since it is your phone and your money. But I can't imagine, as a blind person, making my decision regarding a purchase based on something that has absolutely no importance to me. Had I an iPhone 6, I would most certainly purchase the eight for the following reason: we don't know if the iPhone eight or 8+ will be the last one with touch ID. However this whole face ID thing turns out, and I suspect it will be basically accessible, the fact remains that in order to get full use out of it, you must be able to look at your phone. Can you do that? If not, you are less secure than your sightedcounterpart, and you also don't benefit from the full face ID experience. That is, you can't just look at the phone and see stuff happen. So, rather than be concerned about something that makes no difference to me as a blind person, I am more interested in stuff that does concern me as a blind person, that is full access into the future without worrying about the limitations of somewhat crippled face ID. Just my two cents. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I had planned to buy the 8, but I am going to skip it, and keep my IPhone 6, > which still works fine and, if I keep it that long will upgrade again at > least once, maybe twice. My first reason is that the 8 uses an LCD display, > while the 10 uses an LED display. LED is the future, LCD, nearing the past. > Probably in a model or two, the LED display will make it down to the cheaper > models, and will be cheaper than now. Remember when HD televisions were > thousands of dollars? My second reason, the carriers no longer subsidize > these phones, as they did when I bought my first two iPhones. If I had bought > the 8, I would have kept it until it wouldn't upgrade any more, maybe a year > longer. But I would be paying full price for a phone with an obsolete > display. Thanks, but no thanks. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2017, at 7:22 PM, Gary Bowers <gdbow...@att.net> wrote: > > > 9 reasons you should buy an iPhone 8 instead of an iPhone X > From: > businessinsider.com > Dave Smith > iPhone 8 and 8 plusHollis Johnson/Business Insider > Apple announced three new iPhones this month: the iPhone 8, the iPhone 8 > Plus, and the high-end iPhone X. > Those three phones start at $699, $799, and $999, respectively. > Based on the relatively diminutive launch-day lines for the iPhone 8, it > seems likely that most people are waiting for the release of Apple's > high-end iPhone X, which debuts November 3. > That said, there are several reasons it's worth considering an iPhone 8 > instead of holding out for the iPhone X: > > 1. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus are powered by the same brains as the iPhone X. > This is probably the most important reason to consider the iPhone 8 and 8 > Plus over the iPhone X: Functionally, they're all identical. > All of these phones are powered by Apple's new A11 Bionic chip, a neural > engine, and the M11 motion coprocessor. The only difference is how the > phones use these features: The iPhone X uses the A11 chip and neural engine > for its new face-detection system Face ID, which the iPhone 8 does not have. > 2. Touch ID is a proven entity. Face ID is not. > Ever since the release of iPhone 5S in 2013, Touch ID has changed the way we > use our phones — from unlocking the device, to storing passwords, to using > our fingerprints to pay for goods via Apple Pay. > Touch ID is a known, proven entity. Face ID, which will replace Touch ID on > the iPhone X, is less known. > Apple makes some bold statements about Face ID. The company claims it's less > prone to being tricked than Touch ID. They claim it can also work in the > dark, or recognize changes to your face — like if you grow a beard, or wear > glasses, or change your hair, or put on a kooky outfit. But we still don't > know how Face ID will actually work in the wild when millions of people are > using it. Simply put, technology is not infallible, and it's impossible to > predict what could go wrong with this unlocking method. (Thankfully, the > passcode backup still exists.) > By choosing an iPhone 8, however, you choose to forgo the guinea-pig era for > Face ID. > 3. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus support fast charging and wireless charging for > the first time — just like the iPhone X. > Hollis Johnson/Business Insider > All of these phones support the Qi wireless charging standard as well > as fast-charging. > The downside is, you'll have to buy extra accessories if you choose either > new charging method. Apple offers several different Qi wireless charging > pads you can buy (its own AirPower solution won't be out until 2018, > unfortunately), and you'll need to buy anywhere from $25 to $75 worth of > equipment — a Lightning-to-USB-C cable and a USB-C Power Delivery-compatible > charger, specifically — if you want to use fast-charging for your iPhone 8, > 8 Plus, or iPhone X. > Again, this is one more expense to consider when thinking about the iPhone 8 > versus the $1,000-to-start iPhone X. > 4. The iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X have nearly-identical rear cameras. > Hollis Johnson/Business Insider > If you care at all about photography, the rear cameras on the iPhone 8 Plus > and iPhone X are nearly identical. The iPhone 8 is also a great shooter, but > the larger 8 Plus adds a second telephoto lens so you can zoom in without > losing image quality. > The only difference between the rear cameras on the iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone > X is that the iPhone X has optical-image stabilization for both the > wide-angle and telephoto lenses, for sharper images, especially in low-light > settings; the iPhone 8 Plus only has OIS for the wide-angle lens, like the > iPhone 7 Plus before it. > 5. The front-facing cameras on the iPhone 8 and iPhone X are also identical > — save for a few extra features. > Hollis Johnson/Business Insider > On paper, the FaceTime HD cameras of the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus are > functionally identical to the front-facing camera inside the iPhone X's > TrueDepth camera system. All of these phones take 7-megapixel photos, have a > ƒ/2.2 aperture, and film video in 1080p. > The only difference is the iPhone X got a few "exclusive" software camera > features: Portrait Mode on the front-facing camera (in addition to the > back); Portrait Lighting, which lets you remove backgrounds in your selfies > for a dramatic effect; and Animoji, where you can send animated emoji to > your friends that mimic your facial expressions and even speak using your > voice. > 6. The iPhone 8 doesn't have that hideous "notch" at the top of the phone. > The TrueDepth camera system on the iPhone X is the lone interruption on that > phone's edge-to-edge display. The "notch," as many are calling it, is pretty > hideous, unfortunately. > Thankfully, there's no notch on the iPhone 8 or 8 Plus. > 7. The iPhone X is more expensive than the iPhone 8. > The iPhone 8 starts at $700, while the larger iPhone 8 Plus starts at $800. > The iPhone X, on the other hand, starts at $1,000. > It's simple math: You can save at least $200 by going with an iPhone 8, > which, keep in mind, is still a brand-new phone from Apple. > 8. If you're upgrading from an iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus, your old cases > will fit. > Hollis Johnson/Business Insider > The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus have near-identical dimensions to their > predecessors, the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus, respectively. The new phones are > slightly heavier, and there are slight differences in the new phones' > height, length and depth, but all of the differences are less than a > millimeter each, which means your old iPhone 7 cases will still fit. > The iPhone X has completely different dimensions from past iPhones, so your > old cases won't work with this phone — one more expense to consider when > buying this already-expensive phone. > 9. 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