Exactly, when Apple puts OLED screens on all their phones imagine how large a phone with a 4.7 inch screen like the 6S, 7 or 8 will be, it will most likely be the same or smaller than the old 5S or the iPhone SE but with the same size screen and better battery life.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 8:54 AM To: [email protected]; Mary Otten <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Some Reasons To Skip Both Of Them, was Re: Article: 9 reasons you should buy an iPhone 8 instead of an iPhone X Note, we're talking about an OLED display here and not an LED display. I can see where a blind person would be interested in a phone with an OLED display. The lower power consumption may mean a longer battery life or maybe a smaller phone, and I can see where a blind person would appreciate these two characteristics. The iPhone X has the same size display as the iPhone 8 Plus but in basically the same size as the iPhone 8. From what I've read, it has a longer battery life as well. Not every blind person appreciates a larger display, but I know many blind people who like the larger displays. I'm not saying a blind person should get the iPhone X or pay the extra money to get an OLED display, but I can see where this may interest some blind people, and I'm not going to tell another blind person what is and isn't important to them in a smart phone. On 09/24/2017 08:23 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > OK. I understand about the display being more efficient. But the battery is > also smaller probably, the phone is smaller after all. So, better to find > out what real world battery results are before you assume that the iPhone ex > will actually give you better battery life. You're certainly going to pay a > lot for it. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 24, 2017, at 3:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I have no useable vision, so my wanting to wait until the LED display comes >> to the cheaper models has nothing to do with that. But an LED display is >> much more efficient dan an LCD. The crystals in a liquid crystal display are >> always on, when the screen is active, even if they aren't being used at the >> moment. That is why if you have your screen set not to lock and you forget >> to lock it, it will drain your battery over time. The light emiting diodes >> in an LED displan are active only when they are being used. That is why the >> high-end android phones that use these displays can, allegedly, go for days >> on a battery charge. And, for those who can see it, the LED display is much >> better. So, when it comes time for me to sell my LED display phone, it might >> bring more money than my obsolete LCD phone. >> >> As for the facial recognition thing, it may very well be all right now, and >> if not, I'll bet they will work out some kind of way to make it all right >> for the totally blind within a model, or two. Remember when the first iPhone >> came out? It was going to be the end for the blind. We'd better keep those >> phones with buttons running as long as we could, because the blind just >> weren't ever going to be able to deal with those touch screens. Really? >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> >> Sent from Arnold's iPhone >> >> On Sep 24, 2017, at 12:25 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Arnold, >> Are you totally blind? If so, or if you're not, but really don't have usable >> vision, of what possible interest could the type of display be to you? You >> can obviously do what you want, since it is your phone and your money. But I >> can't imagine, as a blind person, making my decision regarding a purchase >> based on something that has absolutely no importance to me. Had I an iPhone >> 6, I would most certainly purchase the eight for the following reason: we >> don't know if the iPhone eight or 8+ will be the last one with touch ID. >> However this whole face ID thing turns out, and I suspect it will be >> basically accessible, the fact remains that in order to get full use out of >> it, you must be able to look at your phone. Can you do that? If not, you are >> less secure than your sightedcounterpart, and you also don't benefit from >> the full face ID experience. That is, you can't just look at the phone and >> see stuff happen. So, rather than be concerned about something that makes no >> difference to me as a blind person, I am more interested in stuff that does >> concern me as a blind person, that is full access into the future without >> worrying about the limitations of somewhat crippled face ID. Just my two >> cents. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I had planned to buy the 8, but I am going to skip it, and keep my IPhone >>> 6, which still works fine and, if I keep it that long will upgrade again at >>> least once, maybe twice. My first reason is that the 8 uses an LCD display, >>> while the 10 uses an LED display. LED is the future, LCD, nearing the >>> past. Probably in a model or two, the LED display will make it down to the >>> cheaper models, and will be cheaper than now. Remember when HD televisions >>> were thousands of dollars? My second reason, the carriers no longer >>> subsidize these phones, as they did when I bought my first two iPhones. If >>> I had bought the 8, I would have kept it until it wouldn't upgrade any >>> more, maybe a year longer. But I would be paying full price for a phone >>> with an obsolete display. Thanks, but no thanks. >>> >>> Arnold Schmidt >>> >>> >>> Sent from Arnold's iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 7:22 PM, Gary Bowers <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> 9 reasons you should buy an iPhone 8 instead of an iPhone X >>> From: >>> businessinsider.com >>> Dave Smith >>> iPhone 8 and 8 plusHollis Johnson/Business Insider Apple announced >>> three new iPhones this month: the iPhone 8, the iPhone 8 Plus, and >>> the high-end iPhone X. >>> Those three phones start at $699, $799, and $999, respectively. >>> Based on the relatively diminutive launch-day lines for the iPhone >>> 8, it seems likely that most people are waiting for the release of >>> Apple's high-end iPhone X, which debuts November 3. >>> That said, there are several reasons it's worth considering an >>> iPhone 8 instead of holding out for the iPhone X: >>> >>> 1. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus are powered by the same brains as the iPhone X. >>> This is probably the most important reason to consider the iPhone 8 >>> and 8 Plus over the iPhone X: Functionally, they're all identical. >>> All of these phones are powered by Apple's new A11 Bionic chip, a >>> neural engine, and the M11 motion coprocessor. The only difference >>> is how the phones use these features: The iPhone X uses the A11 chip >>> and neural engine for its new face-detection system Face ID, which the >>> iPhone 8 does not have. >>> 2. Touch ID is a proven entity. Face ID is not. >>> Ever since the release of iPhone 5S in 2013, Touch ID has changed >>> the way we use our phones — from unlocking the device, to storing >>> passwords, to using our fingerprints to pay for goods via Apple Pay. >>> Touch ID is a known, proven entity. Face ID, which will replace >>> Touch ID on the iPhone X, is less known. >>> Apple makes some bold statements about Face ID. The company claims >>> it's less prone to being tricked than Touch ID. They claim it can >>> also work in the dark, or recognize changes to your face — like if >>> you grow a beard, or wear glasses, or change your hair, or put on a >>> kooky outfit. But we still don't know how Face ID will actually work >>> in the wild when millions of people are using it. Simply put, >>> technology is not infallible, and it's impossible to predict what >>> could go wrong with this unlocking method. (Thankfully, the passcode >>> backup still exists.) By choosing an iPhone 8, however, you choose >>> to forgo the guinea-pig era for Face ID. >>> 3. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus support fast charging and wireless >>> charging for the first time — just like the iPhone X. >>> Hollis Johnson/Business Insider >>> All of these phones support the Qi wireless charging standard as >>> well as fast-charging. >>> The downside is, you'll have to buy extra accessories if you choose >>> either new charging method. Apple offers several different Qi >>> wireless charging pads you can buy (its own AirPower solution won't >>> be out until 2018, unfortunately), and you'll need to buy anywhere >>> from $25 to $75 worth of equipment — a Lightning-to-USB-C cable and >>> a USB-C Power Delivery-compatible charger, specifically — if you >>> want to use fast-charging for your iPhone 8, >>> 8 Plus, or iPhone X. >>> Again, this is one more expense to consider when thinking about the >>> iPhone 8 versus the $1,000-to-start iPhone X. >>> 4. The iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X have nearly-identical rear cameras. >>> Hollis Johnson/Business Insider >>> If you care at all about photography, the rear cameras on the iPhone >>> 8 Plus and iPhone X are nearly identical. The iPhone 8 is also a >>> great shooter, but the larger 8 Plus adds a second telephoto lens so >>> you can zoom in without losing image quality. >>> The only difference between the rear cameras on the iPhone 8 Plus >>> and iPhone X is that the iPhone X has optical-image stabilization >>> for both the wide-angle and telephoto lenses, for sharper images, >>> especially in low-light settings; the iPhone 8 Plus only has OIS for >>> the wide-angle lens, like the iPhone 7 Plus before it. >>> 5. The front-facing cameras on the iPhone 8 and iPhone X are also >>> identical — save for a few extra features. >>> Hollis Johnson/Business Insider >>> On paper, the FaceTime HD cameras of the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus are >>> functionally identical to the front-facing camera inside the iPhone >>> X's TrueDepth camera system. All of these phones take 7-megapixel >>> photos, have a >>> ƒ/2.2 aperture, and film video in 1080p. >>> The only difference is the iPhone X got a few "exclusive" software >>> camera >>> features: Portrait Mode on the front-facing camera (in addition to >>> the back); Portrait Lighting, which lets you remove backgrounds in >>> your selfies for a dramatic effect; and Animoji, where you can send >>> animated emoji to your friends that mimic your facial expressions >>> and even speak using your voice. >>> 6. The iPhone 8 doesn't have that hideous "notch" at the top of the phone. >>> The TrueDepth camera system on the iPhone X is the lone interruption >>> on that phone's edge-to-edge display. The "notch," as many are >>> calling it, is pretty hideous, unfortunately. >>> Thankfully, there's no notch on the iPhone 8 or 8 Plus. >>> 7. The iPhone X is more expensive than the iPhone 8. >>> The iPhone 8 starts at $700, while the larger iPhone 8 Plus starts at $800. >>> The iPhone X, on the other hand, starts at $1,000. >>> It's simple math: You can save at least $200 by going with an iPhone >>> 8, which, keep in mind, is still a brand-new phone from Apple. >>> 8. If you're upgrading from an iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus, your old >>> cases will fit. >>> Hollis Johnson/Business Insider >>> The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus have near-identical dimensions to their >>> predecessors, the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus, respectively. The new phones >>> are slightly heavier, and there are slight differences in the new phones' >>> height, length and depth, but all of the differences are less than a >>> millimeter each, which means your old iPhone 7 cases will still fit. >>> The iPhone X has completely different dimensions from past iPhones, >>> so your old cases won't work with this phone — one more expense to >>> consider when buying this already-expensive phone. >>> 9. You'll actually be able to find it. >>> A customer being handed over her new iPhone 8. She said she didn't >>> need the iPhone X.Edoardo Maggio/Business Insider Since everyone is >>> so focused on the iPhone X, the iPhone 8 is actually easy to find >>> and buy — even today! 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