That maybe true if you’re using the threaded option to view email. However, I 
don’t use my threaded option when I view my email and activity of the router is 
definitely not consistent.

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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Paul Sandoval <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Sieghard,
> 
> Let me see if I can explain this adequately.
> If you have a message thread, as in having multiple messages, and you flick 
> up and double tap on delete thread, the setting will remain on delete thread 
> if the next message in the list is also a threaded conversation. 
> If not the setting will revert to “Activate”
> Vice versa, if you have a single message and you flick up to delete, as long 
> as the next message is also singular, the setting will remain on delete.
> It’s going to take some getting use to.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> Paul
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> This has been dsicussed already and I believe Applevis has actually flagged 
>> this as a bug in iOS 11. If you are in the mail app and flick down to change 
>> the rotor to delete and then double tap to delete the message you are on, 
>> the rotor used to reset itself to “Activate” so that when the next mail 
>> gained focus and you double tapped it would open the message. In iOS 11 the 
>> rotor mostly stays on delete and another doublke tap will also delete the 
>> next message. In good old Apple fashion this is one example where there is 
>> no consistency, some have apparently figured out when it stays on delete and 
>> when it goes back to activate, I have not and I find it annoying and 
>> consider it a bug. I sent the below message to Apple Accessibility and 
>> unfortunately I was informed that this is not a bug but it is “changed” 
>> behaviour. Here my email exchange, I urge as many people as possible toc 
>> omplain to Apple about this since I don’t recall having heard a single 
>> person say they liked how this is behaving. First, my initial message to 
>> Apple Accessibility:
>>  
>> Hello,
>> In the mail app when I am in my Inbox I used to be able to delete emails 
>> using the delete option on the rotor: I would flick to delete and double 
>> tap, afterwards if I double tap on the next email the "Activate" option 
>> which is and should be the default has gained focus and my next email would 
>> open.
>> In iOS 11 I can delete a message in the described way, but often the rotor 
>> remains on the delete option and if I'm not careful and simply do another 
>> double
>> tap I also delete the next message where in fact I was expecting it to open.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard'
>>  
>> Here is Apple's response, according to this the new behaviour is not a bug 
>> but what it should be:
>>  
>> Hello, 
>>  Thank you for your email. The behavior of the rotor in mail has been 
>> changed. Now when you select an action, such as delete, you then double tap 
>> to delete the email. If you double tap again, then the next email in focus 
>> will also be deleted.
>> The delete action will stay active until swipe up or down to change Actions 
>> rotor functions, or twist to select a different rotor item, at which point 
>> it will revert to “Activate” .
>>  
>> Apple Accessibility
>>  
>> Here is my reply to the above:
>>  
>> Hello,
>> Well, you should maybe reassess this change, first of all it is not 
>> consistent since sometimes (I have not figured out a pattern) the rotor does 
>> reset itself to "activate" and secondly I have not heard one single comment 
>> on the Viphone and other lists where Voiceover users appreciated this new 
>> behaviour. Furthermore, if this is the new behaviour in mail, then why have 
>> you removed this behaviour from the app switcher? In iOS 10 once the rotor 
>> was set to close in the app switcher it was possible to keep double tapping 
>> on apps to close them, now each time after you close one the rotor goes back 
>> to activate and if I want to close apps using the rotor instead of a 
>> 3-finger swipe up for each app I have to flick it to close for each new app.
>> Also, in the Messages app, broken as deleting messages is right now with the 
>> rotor, it also does not stay on delete after you delete a message and I 
>> think to 98% of Voiceover users it makes no sense in the mail app. I will 
>> post your reply on the Viphone list so hopefully many other Voiceover users 
>> let you know that what I am saying is how most of us feel so hopefully Apple 
>> will bring back the old behaviour especially since the new behaviour is not 
>> consistent. Right now even if I want to delete multiple messages I have to 
>> flick the rotor back and forth each time to see if it still is on delete 
>> because otherwise some of the time when it should be on delete it opens the 
>> message or thread instead, as I said, it makes no sense and I'd really like 
>> to know who decided that it does.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
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