I agree with everything you said! Siri works less well with each passing day. 
Siri works better when I had my four is. Siri tells me nothing!

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> On Nov 13, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes! Yes! yes!  Thank you for saying what I have been feeling for quite some 
> time about siri.  She, he or it is in my opinion, getting more and more 
> dense.  Seems to me when I first got my 4 S years ago, siri was much more, 
> dare I say intelligent?  Not so any more and I more often than not resort to 
> other apps to find things out.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:46 AM
> Subject: RE: 4 Ways to Make Siri Smarter on Your iPhone, CNET
> 
> 
> Can you give a few examples? Are these phone numbers for people or for 
> companies? If they are for companies, do you put the name only in the 
> Company field? If so you have to also add it to Last Name because SIRI is so 
> stupid (and has been for years) that it doesn't search the company field 
> only, the company has to be also written in the last name field.
> If they are people, do you correctly put their first name in the first name 
> field and their last name in the last name field?
> Do you enter phone numbers in the correct format, it is best to use the 
> international format even for numbers that are local to you, here is an 
> example:
> Instead of just "1" you should put +1. You get the plus symbol when entering 
> a phone number by tapping the shift key to the right of the 0, then the 0 
> becomes the plus symbol.
> Now enter the number all without spaces, iOS will format it with parenthesis 
> around the area code and put a dash after the first 3 digits of the 7-digit 
> phone number.
> When it comes to people I have no issues whatsoever when I ask SIRI to call 
> somebody unless it's a very unusually pronounced name, but when it comes to 
> companies SIRI can definitely be very stupid. Especially in iOS 11 even if a 
> number is in muy contacts SIRI will go and try to look it up online, I fail 
> to see what is so hard to first get SIRI to look at your contacts to see if 
> there is a match.
> If I do ask SIRI to call a business which I know is not  in my contacts at 
> times SIRI is so stupid that if the business is a chain it will give me 
> locations in all the cities in a 200 mile radius but not the one that is 
> half a mile away.
> I unfortunately have not noticed much improvement with SIRI in iOS 11 and I 
> just don't get it how Apple continue to not get this to work.
> Here an example. I live in a small town called Smithers. Apart from some 
> private liquor stores we also still have government run liquor stores here 
> in British Columbia
> If I ask SIRI "Phone number for BC Liquor Store in Smithers" it tells me 
> here is the number and then proceeds to give me the number of the BC Liquor 
> Store in Burns Lake, a much smaller town about 2 hours drive from here.
> If I ask Google using the exact same wording "Phone number for BC Liquor 
> Store in Smithers" I get the correct local phone number.
> Last night my wife who is from the Philippines and I were talking about an 
> article about Jolliebee which is a huge fast food franchise in the 
> Philippines and they are expanding into other countries now including the 
> US, Canada, China and some european countries. They are in fact the 9th 
> largest fast food chain in the world. Anyhow, my wife was wondering if they 
> were around before McDonalds. I assumed correctly that McDonalds was started 
> much earlier, but that possibly they expanded to the Philippines after 
> Jolliebee came into existance. So I asked SIRI "When was McDonalds founded". 
> Of course I received the usual reply "I found something on the web about 
> when was McDonalds founded, take a look". Maybe the answer was there and a 
> sighted person may have seen it and might be happy with the answer. I just 
> ignored it and opened Google, asked the exact same question and received a 
> spoken answer, short and to the point.
> I then even asked "When was the first McDonalds started in the Philippines" 
> and received the answer "According to McDonalds it was in 1981 when somebody 
> (forgot the name" started the first Mcdonalds franchise in the Philippines".
> At the same time Google told me that Jolliebee was started in the Manila in 
> 1975.
> Maybe it's the lack of access Apple has to Google why SIRI can answer so 
> many fewer questions, but I guess Apple should be able to make a deal with 
> Bing or some other search engine to find such answers online, maybe they 
> should just buy DuckDuckGo, it's not like they don't have enough money.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 4:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 4 Ways to Make Siri Smarter on Your iPhone, CNET
> 
> And how can I make Siri as smart as a Bumblebee when I ask her to dial or 
> call a phone number that is already in my contacts? Half the time she acts 
> like those contacts do not exist.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:48 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> CNET How To - Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 5:00 AM
>> 4 ways to make Siri smarter on your iPhone - CNET Sure, Siri sounds a
>> bit less like a robot in iOS 11, but Apple's digital assistant still
>> fails to understand me and mispronounces names. Siri is also more
>> useful if she (my Siri has a British female voice, so I'll refer to
>> Siri as a "she" here) knows my daily haunts and connects with any
>> supported apps.
>> Learn four easy ways to improve Siri's smarts.
>> 1.
>> Train Siri to hear you better
>> If you have the "Hey Siri" feature enabled and Siri frequently fails
>> to spring to life when you utter the magic words, then it's time to
>> start over and retrain Siri. Go to Settings > Siri & Search and toggle
>> the switch off and back on again for Listen for "Hey Siri." You'll go
>> through the setup process again of training Siri to recognize your voice.
>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>> 
>> 2.
>> Connect apps like Uber and Lyft to Siri Apple opened up Siri to
>> third-party apps with iOS 10 but supported apps are still few and far
>> between. And Siri is shy with such apps, waiting on you to make the
>> introduction before they begin talking to one another. To check if an
>> app has Siri support, go to Settings > Siri & Search and tap on an app
>> from the list. If you see a toggle switch for Use with Siri, then the
>> app is supported. Toggle it on and you can, for example, ask Siri to
>> get you an Uber or a Lyft without touching either app.
>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>> 
>> 3.
>> Correct Siri when she's wrong
>> Siri makes her best guess at pronouncing names but, like teachers on
>> the first day of school and John Travolta at awards shows, doesn't
>> always get it right. You can, however, teach Siri how to correctly
>> pronounce names in your Contacts.
>> Siri, for example, goes 0 for 2 with Charlize Theron's name,
>> butchering both the Oscar winner's first and last names. Tell Siri to
>> "learn how to pronounce Charlize Theron" or if she has mispronounced
>> it already, you can say, "That's not how you say that."
>> Siri will quickly get over any embarrassment and ask, "OK, how do you
>> pronounce the name (Charlize)?" Say the name correctly, and Siri will
>> listen and offer you a few pronunciation choices. You can play each
>> option and select the one that sounds the best. After sorting out the
>> first name, Siri will then take you through the same process for the last 
>> name.
>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>> 
>> 4.
>> Tell Siri where you live and work
>> My favorite kind of reminders are location-based reminders. "Remind me
>> to change over the laundry when I get home" or "Remind me to buy milk
>> when I leave work" or "Remind me to drop off that form when I get to 
>> school."
>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>> In order for Siri to perform this location-based magic, she needs to
>> know where you live, work and go to school. You'll also need to enable
>> location services for reminders.
>> First, open Contacts, find your listing, tap Edit and then tap add 
>> address.
>> You there are labels for home and work but you can add a custom label
>> that Siri will understand such as "school."
>> The second step is go to Settings > Privacy > Location Services and
>> make sure location services are turned on (toggle switch at the top)
>> and enabled for Reminders (scroll down until you find it in your list of 
>> apps).
>> Read more: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11
>> 
>> Original Article At:
>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/4-ways-to-make-siri-smarter-on-your-iphone
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