Hello Keith, Just search for a book title. In its description, it will say something to the effect of commercially produced audio book. Sometimes the description will read, produced by the National Library Service, Commercially produced audio book.
As for me, if there are no available copies of an audio book in Over Drive, then I'll note the name of the narrator, go to BARD, search for the title and see if the name of the narrator is the same as the one listed in the Over Drive app. Only titles that have been produced since 2015 will ever be included in the NLS distribution system. I really like the BARD app, for, unlike the Over Drive app, one can adjust the tone of the audio, in addition to the playback rate. Good luck and happy reading. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:06 PM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: looking for an app Hi Mark, Is there a way to find Audible books on Bard, or does one just search for a desired book, and the result will either be an NLS reader or Audible? Thanks. And, I was glad to hear your description of the Overdrive apps issues with bleed through button images. That makes some sense of the experiences I've had. Best, Keith -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: looking for an app Hello Sieghard, The public library system is completely free in the US. Amazing stats regarding the differences between the US and Canada. Thank you for sharing. As for Audible, I think it is a marvelous resource and turn to it, continually, for book reviews. In fact, I am a member of Audible. Over Drive, is a wonderful tool to access the public library system which, sadly, is underused, these days. For those who truly cannot afford an Audible membership, who want to enjoy commercially produced books, however, Audible may not be an option. Finally, thanks to a law passed by the congress a while back, commercially produced books can now be distributed via the National Library System, via BARD, at no charge to the blind. This law took effect in 2015. So, one can now download, effectively, an audible title, since they all use the same source material, free of charge, from the NLS. This law was passed in order to reduce government spending in terms of having the NLS produce audio books that have already been produced by commercial vendors. In short, there is no need to reinvent the wheel, time and time again. Now when I truly like an audio book, I will buy it from the iBook Store. I prefer the iBook Store because the titles can then also be played on my iPod Nanno devices. I also do this in order to support the authors who make my life a little brighter because of their work. At last count, I think I now have over 100 iBook audio book titles, not to mention all of the iBook e-eBook titles. But, we digress. The good news is that there is something for everyone. (smile) Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: looking for an app Hi Mark, OK, thanks for the explanation. Do these library memberships cost a small fee? Even by the time you add up all the travel cost to go to these libraries and renew your cards especially if you were to go from LA to SF you could probably pay for an Audible membership as well. I think here in British Columbia we have just one large system. British Columbia is well over double the size of California and even about 95,000 square miles larger than Texas, your largest of the lower 48 States, yet we have a population of only 4 Million versus the over 39 Million in California, so maybe you wouldn't have to wait for titles too long. It always strikes me when you look at the numbers how fortunate we are here in Canada inb that respect, the entire population of Canada is a bit over 36 Million which is 3 Million less than California alone. The United States is slightly smaller in area than Canada, imagine if the population of California were spread across the entire USA and that was it. If you look further then of course Canada has a huge portion of its land mass above 60 degrees northern latitude, at least one third, about 90% of our population lives within 200 miles of the border with the United States. Up here where I live in northwestern BC there are about 100,000 people living along Highway 16 from Prince George to Prince Rupert on the west coast, a stretch of over 500 miles and 60,000 of those are in Prince George alone. Anyhow, I just like the simplicity of Audible, the amazing availability of even most of the newest books and the very easy-to-use app. Yes, I do spend probably $400 or $400 a year on books, about $275 of that is for my Platinum (2-credits a month) membership and the rest is for books I buy for $3 to $6 a book from their daily deal email where whichever book is featured is between $1.95 and $5.95 and from when they have a $4.95 or $5.95 sale where a list of a couple of hundred titles is on sale for that price. Once or twice I took the time to add up how many books I bought over the course of 1 year and what I spent in total and I usually average about $7 or $8 per book. Getting professionally produced, unabridged audio books for that price to me is well worth it and the books are mine forever and with 700 or 800 titles in my library by now there I plenty for me to choose from to read a second time if I happen to be out of credits or new books. It's of course also nice that now I can simply return a book if I end up buying something that is not what I thought it was, I simply request a return and get a refund if I paid a few Dollars for the book or I get my credit back. Interestingly enough the books still seem to stay in my library. Take care, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: looking for an app Sieghard, As much as I wish your words were true, in the US, anyway, it's not quite that simple. One has access to only those books that a particular libraries system owns. Large cities such as Los Angeles, for example, buy up to hundreds of copies of one title so, in such a situation, because the actual library system is so big, one only need join that one system. However, some libraries choose to go it alone, Such as the San Diego public Library while others choose to create their own systems, made up of a bunch of tiny libraries, such as the Southern California library system which includes tiny, tiny city libraries, which, when combined, make up a large repository of books. As long as one can prove residency in 1 state, say California, one can join, for free, any and all of the library systems in that state. In the case of California, there are over a hundred library systems, some public, some private. Personally, I belong to 8 different libraries systems. As a result, I can get virtually any audio book I want at almost any time because each system usually buys multiple copies of titles. Every now and then, a new title will come out that has a waiting list of over 2 hundred people but, in those instances, I simply try another of my library systems and, usually, I can find the title, immediately or the title will be available soon. In some cases, I have recommended titles to my various libraries and, almost always, they buy at least 1 copy, giving me first dibs on borrowing it. Now, in smaller states, say, for example, Wisconsin, there may only be 1 or two libraries systems. In those instances, given the budget of the state, titles can be difficult to find or wait lists may be very, very long. Despite all of the problems that come from living in a large metropolitan area, there are some very definite advantages that go along with it, also. By the way, The reason I don't belong to more libraries systems is because I'd have to travel further to physically join them and one has to renew her/his card every two years or so. One day, I'll take a trip over to San Fran Cisco and join their system as I hear that it buys very cur tour titles that I may wish to read, one day. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: looking for an app Hi Keith, I believe the point of Overdrive is that as long as you are a member of any public library you have access to a huge catalogue of titles not just what your particular library may physically have there. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:52 AM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: looking for an app Unfortunately for me, our library here usually only gets 1 of any audiobook, and for popular books, one may have to wait weeks or even many months before that one book becomes available, as the library can only loan out at any one time the number of books they have purchased. So, if I want to read a new release that is popular, and wasn't lucky enough to get in line fast enough, I'm still using Audible. Keith -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 12:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: looking for an app Hello Rebecca, I use the Over Drive public Library app to see lists of books by either the same author or by the book series. In fact, Over Drive will even tell you what number, in the series, a book is, when possible. I love this app. I was going to begin an Audible subscription but discovered Over Drive, just in time. The thing is that Over Drive uses the exact same titles as Audible. This is all based on being a member of your local public library but other than that, the sky is the limit. As for a completely stand alone app that allows one to search for book series, I would be interested in obtaining that, also. 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