I purchased the insta pot last week and received it last Friday. What is the 
name of the app? I purchased the bluetooth model. Thanks On Dec 3, 2017, at 
12:37 PM, Kay Malmquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I understand all that, and yes, it would be nice to be able to update the 
> firmware in this, so we will see where that goes.  I know what they told you 
> about being designed to work as an accessible app and let's hope that 
> continues.
> Kay Malmquist
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:28 AM
>> Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>> 10-in-1
>> 
>> As I said, according to the customer service rep the fact that the Instant 
>> Pot app is accessible is by design and not just something that just happens 
>> to be so.
>> I would therefore assume Instant Pot as a company is aware of the needs of 
>> visually impaired users and has made a commitment towards offering an 
>> accessible product.
>> Anyhow, by software update I don’t mean updates to the app but updates to 
>> the pot’s firmware. The app of course is also important as it’s your portal 
>> to the hardware, with something like the Instant Pot the app really is no 
>> more than a remote control which let’s you select a cooking program and 
>> maybe set a timer etc. Of course if the buttons, labels and other controls 
>> in the app are made to be inaccessible that makes the entire product 
>> inaccessible.
>> But the real “smart” stuff happens inside the software and the processor 
>> that is built into the pot and this is where it would make sense if this 
>> could be updated just like I can update the firmware of my router, my 
>> Netatmo Weather Station, my Schlage Sense smart doorlock, my Ring Video 
>> Doorbell or my Philipps Hue lights so it should be possible to update the 
>> firmware of the actual Instant Pot.
>> The issue you describe with the iGrill is of course not because the actual 
>> hardware has become inaccessible, the hardware only communicates with the 
>> app, but here iGrill has messed up by making the app inaccessible, basically 
>> now the remote control or the gateway/the portal to the iGrill is 
>> inaccessible.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:11 AM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>> 10-in-1
>>  
>> I get a bit nervous talking about software updates after our experience with 
>> iGrill and their updates which rendered the product basically useless.  Lets 
>> hope they keep the functionality and accessibility going.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>----- Original 
>> Message ----- 
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:41 AM
>>> Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>>> 10-in-1
>>>  
>>> No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all he said 
>>> that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too bad 
>>> they don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on a 
>>> Sonos player or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised now 
>>> that I think about it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that 
>>> functionality, it really would make sense since the pot itself probably 
>>> won’t change very much and improvements will generally be software related.
>>> I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues on as a 
>>> 6 quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to the 
>>> latest devices is probably a quick path to financial ruin, everything now 
>>> has software or is connected and the next version is always better and so 
>>> on and so on, it’s almost not possible to almost get the latest and in many 
>>> cases also not necessary.
>>> One example is the TV. It used to be people would buy a TV and then you 
>>> would have this TV for 15, 20 or even 25 years. Nowadays you buy a TV and a 
>>> year or two later there is a newer, better one with more pixels, better 
>>> connectivity, a larger screen or a faster processor etc. Of course it’s not 
>>> feasible for the average user to update their TV every 2 or 3 years like 
>>> most of us update their phone, but that is what companies ideally want.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:34 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>>> 10-in-1
>>>  
>>> Did he give you any indication as to what would be forthcoming in the new 
>>> smart?  I don't regret buying this one and if I think there is a need to 
>>> buy the new one I might do that but in an 8 quart instead of the 6 that I 
>>> now have.  I can either keep this one or give it to my daughter who would 
>>> like it as well.  But I think since it would be at that point an older 
>>> model I would happily use it myself.
>>>  
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>----- Original 
>>> Message ----- 
>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 4:14 PM
>>>> Subject: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1
>>>>  
>>>> Hello,
>>>>  
>>>> I have not read that the Ultra has a Sous Vide function, but I have seen 
>>>> the stand-alone Instant Pot Sous Vide cooker which seems to be its own 
>>>> unit but somehow can also be used with an existing Instant Pot, haven’t 
>>>> quite figured it out.
>>>>  
>>>> Anyhow, I called Instant Pot and was surprised by the knowledge of the 
>>>> person I spoke with. The phone connection was poor, but when I asked the 
>>>> customer service agent when the current Instant Pot Smart was released he 
>>>> immediately told me it was last May. I told him I had ordered the Ultra, 
>>>> but that I was blind and found it was not accessible in a meaningful way 
>>>> he said that Instant Pot currently recommends not to buy the existing 
>>>> Instant Pot Smart. He further told me they were working on a new and 
>>>> improved version which should come out in the first quarter of 2018. Since 
>>>> it is not like I’m desperate and couldn’t live another day (or week or 
>>>> months or 3) without an Instant Pot I will definitely wait to see what 
>>>> this new Instant Pot Smart has to offer.
>>>> I also asked him whether the good accessibility of the app was accidental 
>>>> or by design and he said it was by design. Lastly I asked if the new 
>>>> Instant Pot Smart would be more expensive implying jokingly that I didn’t 
>>>> expect him to answer this and he answered without delay or hesitation that 
>>>> no, it would not be more expensive.
>>>> Well, all we can do now is wait and see, I certainly will wait and anybody 
>>>> who doesn’t already have one of these gadgets is probably better off doing 
>>>> the same. One thing I am glad about is that I have not yet purchased one 
>>>> especially since they were not on sale last weekend. I guess if I had been 
>>>> able to pick one up for half price this might have been a good deal, but I 
>>>> am going to much more willing to pay full price for the new model as soon 
>>>> as it comes out without experiencing buyer’s remorse.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>>  
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:08 PM
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Sieghard,
>>>>  
>>>> I was just going to write to the list and see if you had gotten it yet.  I 
>>>> really hoped that you would say it was accessible.  The new pot is 
>>>> supposed to have a Sous Vide function which is cooking under vacuum in a 
>>>> water bath.  I wasn't to worried about that myself because we already have 
>>>> a Sous Vide Supreme and so that would not be as important.  I do not know 
>>>> when this is supposed to come out though.  Whatever you decide,you will 
>>>> like the instant pot.  Every time I use it I just love how the iPhone 
>>>> makes it so easy to use.
>>>> Kay Malmquist
>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>----- Original 
>>>> Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 3:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I mentioned last weekend that I had ordered the Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1 
>>>>> pressure cooker. As many of us found out, nobody seemed to have any deals 
>>>>> on the Instant Pot Smart and except for on Amazon here in Canada I have 
>>>>> not even found it for sale anywhere else, Best Buy Canada doesn’t carry 
>>>>> it, they only have the Duos 7-in-1 and I think 9-in-1.
>>>>> This Ultra 10-in-1 which states it is a 2017 model was on sale on 
>>>>> Amazon.ca <http://amazon.ca/> for $119.99 and that was definitely a good 
>>>>> buy because now it is listed as $229.99.
>>>>> Anyhow, I received it yesterday and unfortunately it would appear that it 
>>>>> is not accessible for a blind person. We never did actually plug it in, 
>>>>> but all it has in terms of controls is a single dial which can also be 
>>>>> pushed in to sort of “click” or select your program that you turn the 
>>>>> dial to. It has 16 programs and I assume these are all selected via the 
>>>>> dial.
>>>>> There are also two buttons just below and to either side of the dial, 
>>>>> probably for maybe setting the timer, maybe an up and down arrow.
>>>>> The dial does click as you turn it, well, not audibly click, but you can 
>>>>> feel how each position clicks into place, but there is no tactile 
>>>>> reference point on the dial and no stop like where you could turn it all 
>>>>> the way to the left or right to a stop position and then count clicks 
>>>>> forward or backward. The dial just as in so many appliances nowadays just 
>>>>> spins around and around and you have to visually confirm what you 
>>>>> selected.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Anyhow, I packed it up again and it will become a wedding present for my 
>>>>> store manager and his wife (they just got married today) and I will 
>>>>> probably order the Instant Pot Smart. Amazingly when I checked it again 
>>>>> on Amazon.ca <http://amazon.ca/>it told me that it had dropped in price 
>>>>> by just over $2 from $189.99 to $187.something, I guess I am getting my 
>>>>> deal after all *smile*.
>>>>> The only thing I’m still a bit hesitant about is the fact that Instant 
>>>>> Pot may come out with a new version shortly. I was going to call them to 
>>>>> ask when this version was released since I haven’t really found that 
>>>>> information.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
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