That is not correct. I have shout cast installed on my phone and when I 
upgraded  to 11 it stayed there. 

When I try to open it it says the app needs to be updated   But the app still 
did not get magically disappeared  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:25 AM, goshawk on horseback 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> the "no longer in the app store" thing I hope still only applies to iCloud 
> backups, not iTunes ones, as I did have that issue when I first started off 
> with iPhones. that's why I only use iTunes backups to restore from now, as 
> until recently, there were no disappearing app issues.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donna
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: mystery of the disappearing apps?
> 
> I don't know if this is your problem but this is my expeerience..When setting 
> up a new phone or restoring a phone from a backup, if the apps are no longer 
> in the app store or won't work on my current version of IOS the apps won't be 
> installed onto my device. If Im incorrect hopefully someone will correct me & 
> offer you a solution. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> hello all,
>> the last time I got a new iPhone, and restored from an iTunes backup, I 
>> noticed that a few of my apps seemed to have not been installed on to the 
>> new phone. no matter what I did, I couldn't get them back, even by making 
>> another backup from an iPhone that I knew they are on, they still didn't 
>> install across to the new phone. is iTunes starting to get a bit selective, 
>> and not copy or install apps that it thinks won't work with later IOS 
>> versions or something?
>> as that's the only answer I can come up with, unless something is going 
>> wrong.
>>  
>> Simon
>>  
>>  
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