Hi,
I think it’s very interesting that some blind people complain when they don’t 
get what they think they need, and yet when they get something there very 
ungrateful and continuously complain about it.
We all need to work together and figure things out and improve what we have and 
strive to find new ways to help others and do new things.

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:05 PM, 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hands up to Richard.  I totally agree.
> The thought of being able to read hand writing has always been just a dream.
> As Richard has said.  If you have been totally blind for all your life or 
> most of your life this technology it great.
> We take what we can get and Seeing AI is giving it all to us.
> 
> I know a friend who has slowly been losing their sight and is now having to 
> use OCR technology and thinks it isn't that good.
> 
> Who started off with a Kurzwil Scanner at £10,000 30 years ago?  We have 
> suffered through technology changing.  And everyday it gets just that little 
> bit better to me it's a huge mile stone.
> 
> Enjoy what we have got because you would not have coped 30 years ago.
> 
> Cheers
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 18 December 2017 15:54
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
> 
> 
> So, instead of recognizing that for the very first time, people who are blind 
> have been given access to handwriting, you are going to focus on what it 
> cannot do?
> This is a revolutionary step toward accessibility for people without sight.
> Now, if you want to write the developer and make a request that they work on 
> allowing a way to combine the Document Channel, with the handwriting, fine. 
> But as far as I'm concerned, Microsoft deserves nothing but praise for this 
> huge step forward. And, since the person at Microsoft who spearheaded this 
> app is blind, he probably is already working on recognition in forms.
> 
> Just my opinion.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Choosing handwriting mode wont read printed text, it doesn't make any 
>> sence specially when we are reading some kind of forms where few 
>> entries have been filled in handwriting. For example, , whether 
>> written name is persons name or his father's name, is not clear .
>> 
>>> On 12/18/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> 
>>> Quite a few people have reported very good results, why propose it’s 
>>> not working before you try it?
>>> I’m sure it depends a great deal on the person’s handwriting, but 
>>> apparently if the handwriting is relatively normal it does a great 
>>> job. One thing that is mentioned when you switch to that channel for 
>>> the first time is that the writing has to be right side up, I assume 
>>> those who get no results at all might have it upside down or 
>>> sideways, but there aren’t that many possibilities so one just has to 
>>> keep rotating the paper if it doesn’t work at first.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Dave
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:54 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>> 
>>> no, it works.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> From: Andy Baracco<mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 2:04 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>> 
>>> I shouldn't speak about this without trying it, but with all of the 
>>> variables involved in handwriting, I can't imagine being able to 
>>> trust this capability. It seems like a kind of parlar game, but i hope that 
>>> I'm wrong.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>> 
>>> You know you have to have the writing right side up.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>>> -- Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Dave
>>> <dave.beckett...@gmail.com<mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi rebecca,
>>> 
>>> Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand writing 
>>> channel, and it did really well.
>>> 
>>> I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so above 
>>> the card.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> From: Rebecca Ilniski<mailto:rilni...@icloud.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>> 
>>> I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read for 
>>> me.  I used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put the camera 
>>> and document straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting channel.
>>> Rebecca and guide dog Zeb
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