The way it would be useful was that you could read a document/form which has 
typed text and handwritten answers which were filled in.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI

Why would doing something like that be useful? I mean, could that help someone 
with a visual impairment fill out a form? I'm just curious, is all. The only 
time I could see something like that being even somewhat useful is if my 
husband needed me to bring something from the house that he forgot; I could 
easily identify it with Seeing AI and bring it to him. Maybe I just don't get 
the reasoning behind the idea.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Dec 19, 2017, at 1:21 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> Being a fan of seeing AI app, I have to say, the hand writing recognition, 
> where it to be integrated with the document channel, could give us something 
> very special! we could access filled in forms et cetera. it looks very doable 
> to me. raising this issue, far from being a complaint, is actually a useful 
> suggestion. Worth putting it forward to Microsoft, perhaps?
> 
> very satisfied, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 18 Dec 2017, at 19:35, Candy Lowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Peg, I am in total agreement with you. Just aggravates me so much because I 
>> am 67 years old and grew up with relatively no technology at all. Now things 
>> are so much better and yet it appears that some of the blind people are 
>> never satisfied.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I think it’s very interesting that some blind people complain when they 
>>> don’t get what they think they need, and yet when they get something there 
>>> very ungrateful and continuously complain about it.
>>> We all need to work together and figure things out and improve what we have 
>>> and strive to find new ways to help others and do new things.
>>> 
>>> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:05 PM, 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hands up to Richard.  I totally agree.
>>>> The thought of being able to read hand writing has always been just a 
>>>> dream.
>>>> As Richard has said.  If you have been totally blind for all your life or 
>>>> most of your life this technology it great.
>>>> We take what we can get and Seeing AI is giving it all to us.
>>>> 
>>>> I know a friend who has slowly been losing their sight and is now having 
>>>> to use OCR technology and thinks it isn't that good.
>>>> 
>>>> Who started off with a Kurzwil Scanner at £10,000 30 years ago?  We have 
>>>> suffered through technology changing.  And everyday it gets just that 
>>>> little bit better to me it's a huge mile stone.
>>>> 
>>>> Enjoy what we have got because you would not have coped 30 years ago.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Martin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: 18 December 2017 15:54
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So, instead of recognizing that for the very first time, people who are 
>>>> blind have been given access to handwriting, you are going to focus on 
>>>> what it cannot do?
>>>> This is a revolutionary step toward accessibility for people without sight.
>>>> Now, if you want to write the developer and make a request that they work 
>>>> on allowing a way to combine the Document Channel, with the handwriting, 
>>>> fine. But as far as I'm concerned, Microsoft deserves nothing but praise 
>>>> for this huge step forward. And, since the person at Microsoft who 
>>>> spearheaded this app is blind, he probably is already working on 
>>>> recognition in forms.
>>>> 
>>>> Just my opinion.
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it." -- Jane Wagner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Choosing handwriting mode wont read printed text, it doesn't make 
>>>>> any sence specially when we are reading some kind of forms where 
>>>>> few entries have been filled in handwriting. For example, , 
>>>>> whether written name is persons name or his father's name, is not clear .
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/18/17, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quite a few people have reported very good results, why propose 
>>>>>> it’s not working before you try it?
>>>>>> I’m sure it depends a great deal on the person’s handwriting, but 
>>>>>> apparently if the handwriting is relatively normal it does a 
>>>>>> great job. One thing that is mentioned when you switch to that 
>>>>>> channel for the first time is that the writing has to be right 
>>>>>> side up, I assume those who get no results at all might have it 
>>>>>> upside down or sideways, but there aren’t that many possibilities 
>>>>>> so one just has to keep rotating the paper if it doesn’t work at first.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dave
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:54 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> no, it works.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Andy Baracco<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 2:04 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I shouldn't speak about this without trying it, but with all of 
>>>>>> the variables involved in handwriting, I can't imagine being able 
>>>>>> to trust this capability. It seems like a kind of parlar game, but i 
>>>>>> hope that I'm wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Richard Turner<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You know you have to have the writing right side up.
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>>>> it."
>>>>>> -- Jane Wagner
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Dave 
>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi rebecca,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand 
>>>>>> writing channel, and it did really well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so 
>>>>>> above the card.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Rebecca Ilniski<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read 
>>>>>> for me.  I used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put 
>>>>>> the camera and document straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting 
>>>>>> channel.
>>>>>> Rebecca and guide dog Zeb
>>>>>> Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Twitter: applegirl1994
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